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Old 12-05-2012, 01:29 AM   #1011
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i was wonder about that to remove the ski or the ov
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:17 PM   #1012
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-ski, -ov and -ev all make grammatical sense in the Macedonian language. -ić -opoulos -oglou do not. If i were in the situation where I carried a slave name i'd try to change it back to its natural form. If it's as simple as removing a suffix i'd just remove it. If I had no leads on my original surname and my slave name was not morphed but totally changed, i'd probably use my grandfather's first name as my surname.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:38 PM   #1013
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-ski, -ov and -ev all make grammatical sense in the Macedonian language. -ić -opoulos -oglou do not. If i were in the situation where I carried a slave name i'd try to change it back to its natural form. If it's as simple as removing a suffix i'd just remove it. If I had no leads on my original surname and my slave name was not morphed but totally changed, i'd probably use my grandfather's first name as my surname.
I agree with this 100%

Perhaps some macedonians had the "ski" suffix added when Tito came to power, but in reality the "ski" ending has been with macedonians for a long time, far longer then the "ou" or "ic"

Some of the greatest macedonians had the "ski" ending before Tito's time.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:52 PM   #1014
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Like Jane Sandanski Pirinskiot Tsar
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Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:08 PM   #1015
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I think the Greek -ou and Macedonian -ov have the same origin. In some areas of western Macedonia it is just -o.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:36 PM   #1016
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Interesting. I always thought the "o" was the proper ending.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:28 AM   #1017
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99% of "ski" terminations are as a result of Yugoslav communist criminal misadventure.

Thus your real surname is not Naumovski or Naumovic but Naumov.

Sandanski is an extremely rare and atypical example...and the 'ski" nearly always relates as to where you came from rather than who your family is. Hence, Stambouliski is someone from Istanbul, Sofianski is someone from Sofia etc etc.

The funniest irony is that "ski" surnames were actually far more common in Bulgaria prior to 1945 than on the territory of the Republic of Macedonia.

The only irony greater than the above is the Skis insisting on Macedonians from the Aegean to change their surnames back when the Skis themselves have no intention of doing so themselves.

How many ways can you say "hypocrisy"?
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So instead of saying Makedonski or Ohridski what do you suggest we say.
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Kosturski Orel, how would you explain a family name of mine that ends with a ski (given all my family is from Egej). Your statistic is absolute rubbish. You sound a bit like a stupid Bulgarian.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:48 AM   #1020
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99% of "ski" terminations are as a result of Yugoslav communist criminal misadventure.

Thus your real surname is not Naumovski or Naumovic but Naumov.

Sandanski is an extremely rare and atypical example...and the 'ski" nearly always relates as to where you came from rather than who your family is. Hence, Stambouliski is someone from Istanbul, Sofianski is someone from Sofia etc etc.

The funniest irony is that "ski" surnames were actually far more common in Bulgaria prior to 1945 than on the territory of the Republic of Macedonia.

The only irony greater than the above is the Skis insisting on Macedonians from the Aegean to change their surnames back when the Skis themselves have no intention of doing so themselves.

How many ways can you say "hypocrisy"?
There are many Bulgarian Slavs, past and present, that have the "ski" ending in their surname. Some examples:

Stanislav Ianevski
Paisiy Hilendarski
Tryphon Silyanovski
Galina Durmushliyska
Vassil Levski
Vassil Vassilev Karloukovski - Modern Day Bulgarian internet Propagandist
Georgi Sava Rakovski
Raina Kabaivanska
Alexander Stamboliiski
Hristo Smirnenski - 19th century Bulgarian poet
Stefan SOFIYANSKI - Politician, Union of Free Democrats
Dimiter Markovski - Modern Day Bulgarian internet Propagandist
Stojan Mihailovski (1856-1927)
Ilarion Makariopolski
Petur Gabrovski
Boris Kornovski - Current President of Varna

But in saying that, i think you over exaggerate the communists role in changing peoples surnames in macedonia.

For example, almost all of the people from eastern macedonia have surnames that end in "ov". Places like Strumica, Stip, Veles etc, almost every one has a "ov" surname. While on the other hand everyone in Ohrid, Prilep, Struga, Tetovo and the rest of western macedonia have the "ski" ending. Places like Bitola and Skopje have mixed results.

Kiro Gligorov, the biggest yugocommie and Tito's puppet didnt change his name as well.

Are you trying to say that the people of eastern Macedonia all stood up against Tito and didnt allow their names to be changed? Thats a pretty effort by these people considering what tito did to chetniks,ustashe etc

And as Risto said, their are people in Aegean macedonia, albania and pirin macedonia with the "ski" names as well.

You really do sound like a bulgarian slav nationalist. I thought you were a macedonian:?
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