National Geographic, who were the Christian settlers coming to Aegean Macedonia, 1925

[makedonin]

Originally Posted by Royal Hellas

Because they were exposed to Turkish culture,similar to an ethnic Greek being raised in America, the first language is not Greek but American. Still an ethnic Greek though, "Greek by genus" as the Greek government says.

Did they run Genetic test, to prove them that they are Greek by Genus?

and just because they are "Greek by genus" what ever that may be, they have the right to be called Makedones and be the heirs of Ancient Macedonians, even though they are less then a Century here in Macedonia. And we have to change our Name and Identity cause them?

all wanna be Turks

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Royal Hellas

Still an ethnic Greek though, "Greek by genus" as the Greek government says.

Is it an ethnic Greek or Greek by genus? And is the Greek government an appropriate authority to quote on this matter? Why did so many of your "Greeks by genus" become Romanians last century? Sorry, you will have to try much harder to convince us. You will really have to work on your definitions, by definition a Greek is a modern Greek as the country did not exist before 1830. Therefore, to lump all of these races into the modern Greek identity as being part of a "genus" is ... well ... optimistic. Are the French actually Italians by genus? Can you identify any departure from your logic in this example?

[Svoliani]

Lets all read what the uchitel has underlined..

" The last arriving GREEK boys staring broadly at the last departing MOSLEM boys. Speech between them being impossible, since the GREEKS spoke only Turkish and the TURKS spoke only Greek."

So it clearly says that they were Greeks who spoke Turkish. Wow what a shock for everyone. Of course there were lots of real Turks in Asia Minor and these Greeks were exposed to the culture and learned the language. But this seems impossible for you , how can someone learn a second language?!?!?! That cant be possible can it.

The question of the day that you need to ask yourselves is why the TURKS coming from Macedonia spoke GREEK and not MAKEDONSKI EZIK when Ethnic Macedonians were the clear MAJORITY in the region according to our historians here!!! Thats what you need to ask yourself, why in the hell these Turks didnt manage to learn Makedonski instead they learned GREEK when apparently there werent ANY Greeks in Belo More Macedonia!!

[Royal Hellas]

Makedonski language wasn't around at the time.

[osiris]

Makedonski language wasn't around at the time.

how can one continue dialogue with such people.

svoliani as your buddy royal butt licker affirms there was no makedonski then any way, what ever language the departing muslims spooke, if it was not turkish, greek officials would have happiuly informed the journailts , they were in fact speaking a greek tongue.

[Philosopher]

Originally Posted by Royal Hellas

Makedonski language wasn't around at the time.

You're right. Makedonski wasn't around at that time but it's funny you should write that, because Macedonian, the language, and the people, is recorded in the 1400s, 1500s, and 1600s, by non-Macedonians.

But why let a fact stand in the way.

This is Greek logic at its best.

Go figure.

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Svoliani

The question of the day that you need to ask yourselves is why the TURKS coming from Macedonia spoke GREEK and not MAKEDONSKI EZIK when Ethnic Macedonians were the clear MAJORITY in the region according to our historians here!!! Thats what you need to ask yourself, why in the hell these Turks didnt manage to learn Makedonski instead they learned GREEK when apparently there werent ANY Greeks in Belo More Macedonia!!

Oh but there are Macedonian speaking enclaves all over Turkey.
They in fact feel Macedonian and openly express themselves as such and treat Macedonians who visit there with great respect.
You should look harder.
And further, the Pomaks were merely muslim Macedonians. Where did most of the Pomaks go donkey boy?

[Risto the Great]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Is it an ethnic Greek or Greek by genus? And is the Greek government an appropriate authority to quote on this matter? Why did so many of your "Greeks by genus" become Romanians last century? Sorry, you will have to try much harder to convince us. You will really have to work on your definitions, by definition a Greek is a modern Greek as the country did not exist before 1830. Therefore, to lump all of these races into the modern Greek identity as being part of a "genus" is ... well ... optimistic. Are the French actually Italians by genus? Can you identify any departure from your logic in this example?

Royal Hellas ... don't forget to respond.

[Svoliani]

Re Risto , POMAKS are Macedonian Muslims?????

It is a well known fact that Pomaks (from pomogach meaning helper) are Bulgarian Muslims.
The vast majority live in the Rhodopi mts region on the Bulgarian/Greek border.

You must be thinking of Torbeshi.

And if you ever find a book or video or link of Macedonian speaking enclaves in Turkey , i would love to see it.
There are 300,000 Bulgarian speakers in Turkey. Although your language is mutually intelligable to Bulgarian, you dont speak Bulgarian.

[osiris]

doesnt it strike you as absurd coming on this forum and telling us who we are what langauge we speak etc etc. when did god die and make you lord of humanity. you sound like a very pretensious ignoramus to me. the old axiom of a little knowledaghe is a dangerous thing apllies to most of your posts.

as for turks speaking macedonian. have you been to instanbul lately, i couldnt get away from turks speaking macedonian and telling me nostalgically how they still missed makedonia