Modern Greek dialects

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Royal Hellas

There was no need to clarify what type of Greeks they were in the 80's.

When did Greece officially rename its Northern Province to include the term "Macedonia" in it?

With eyes wide open, the Greeks are robbing and theiving the heritage from the Macedonians, re-christening it, and packaging it for export to convice the rest of the world.

Fkers.

[Risto the Great]

And still not a comment about the COMPLETE LACK OF GREEK DIALECT IN A PLACE WHERE THEY REGULARLY DECLARE THE GREEKNESS OF MACEDONIANS.

.... ummmm, except for the imported majority nowadays.

Surely the Greeks can join the dots on this one.

[osiris]

an albanian friend of mine is george kapinaris proudly first cousin. to my surprise one day my he comes to my house a few hours late, and when i ask him where has he been he tells me the story. george the proud greek loves his foustanella because its actually albanian just like his mum.

but hey being greek is infinitely cooler just check out how cool they all are one the videos i posted.

[Royal Hellas]

Originally Posted by Pelister

When did Greece officially rename its Northern Province to include the term "Macedonia" in it?

Before 1991.

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Spartan, you have to define Northern in this context and exactly which people. Either the ones still in Greece or in the Diaspora.The ones in the Diaspora are absolutely irrelevant, as an example, my Grandparents spoke horrible Greek which was heavy in the way you describe. It was not their natural language. If you mean the locals, then are we talking about a standard language that relates to the imported Christians as well as the local indigenous Macedonians, Greeks, Vlachs, Albanians and Turks? If this is the case, it further suggests all of this is a relatively new phenomena.

This is the accent I was referring to Risto.
I dont know if you understand Greek, if not I guess this doesnt help much. But if you do, this is what I was talking about-

YouTube - I am NOT Greek, I AM MACEDONIAN!

[Risto the Great]

Spartan, this is not a dialect. This is an accent.
It shows how new the Greek phenomena is in the region.

[Spartan]

I know
I meant accent, not dialect
You can hear it though, I assume?

[Spartan]

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Originally Posted by Spartan

This is the accent I was referring to Risto.

Sorry about the misunderstanding

[Risto the Great]

No big deal mate.
I was just trying to make the distinction. Because the accent does not remain when the children learn Greek. It is like when they use an old Italian guy to sell pizzas on TV with a thick accent indicating how recently he has arrived from Italy and how authentic the pizzas are.

If it was a dialect, the kids in Greece could switch in and out of it. But this offers nothing colourful or new, as a consequence, the "heavyness" is as good as gone.

I can barely understand Greek but can distinguish this phenomena.