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Old 09-25-2008, 04:16 AM   #1
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Where are this "Greek Macedonians", only in Chalchadiki and maybe Solun was spoken Greek.

How was that? 2400 years of Greek Macedonia.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:12 AM   #2
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^^^Can someone translate for me?
I dont understand what the colours are supposed to represent.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:09 PM   #3
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^^^Can someone translate for me?
I dont understand what the colours are supposed to represent.
I believe they represent the areas in which the various dialects are spoken. You really have to read the article from which the map is taken to understand it.
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here is what it says Spartan:
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Map showing important isoglosses between the traditional Modern Greek dialects (c.1900).[4]

* Purple: Area of "northern vocalism" (/ski'li/ > [skli])
* Green: Area of palatalisation of /k/ > [ts] (/kiria'ki/ > [tsirja'tsi])
* Yellow: Area of palatalisation of /k/ > tʃ (/kiria'ki/ > [tʃirja'tʃi]
* Brown: Geminated initial consonants (/ne/ > [nne])
* Red: Retention of word-final /n/
* Dark brown: Historical /y/ > /u/
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Mhm..and thats not the only map showing that.

Nice info Makedonin!
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So they can say cheeseburger on Crete!
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Mhm..and thats not the only map showing that.
you are right, I think that there are few other Maps like this one.

It is interesting that the Greek speaking areas showed on the map are also in no contradiction with the Quote of the "Greek" King George, when he confesses that the Greek Element in Macedonia is very small.

This quote is found in the Macedonian Knot from Hans Lothar Steppan, in moment available only in Macedonian and German.
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Gotta love those "northern vocalisms"
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there are a number of areas of Greece that were not originally Greek-speaking and therefore have no truly local dialects. Any dialect map would have to recognise this fact, and it is perhaps not too far-fetched to suggest that the graphic cartographic portrayal of the absence of traditional dialects of
Greek from rather large areas of Greece might, in previous generations, have caused political difficulties with certain Greek nationalists for the dialectologist
The last time I said there is no Greek dialect in Northern Greece I offended so many maggots. It would appear I have the backing of dedicated dialectologists now. That being the case, what on Earth makes Greeks think they can claim Macedonia? Where is that trusty Greek-Macedonian dialect?
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Risto, I dont know anything about a Greek-Macedonian "dialect" per say, as I have never visited there. But I can tell you that the northern Greeks speak Greek with a very heavy accent. I can pick it up within one sentence if I hear it. It is very noticable.
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