Macedonians in the East Roman Empire - Page 4

Soldier of Macedon · 07-01-2009, 08:29 AM

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...esult&resnum=1

So we have sources openly citing Slavonic persons that had reached prominent positions in military and political life within East Rome, as early as the reign of Justinian and well into the Macedonian period.

Who is this brilliant Slav marshal, ANDREW CRATERUS?

Soldier of Macedon · 07-01-2009, 08:41 AM

The name Craterus (Kratero) is an ancient Macedonian name by origin, used later during the Roman period also. Interestingly, this Macedonian name was used as the family name of the Christian Slav called Andrew.

Rogi · 07-01-2009, 09:04 AM

Craterus was not only an Ancient Macedonian name, but probably one of the most powerful names in Macedonia during and after the Death of Alexander the Great.

Craterus was his best general, or best fighter. He was also a Kosturchanec.

Soldier of Macedon · 07-01-2009, 09:24 AM

More about Macedonian soldiers in the army of East Rome.

http://books.google.com/books?id=yC0MAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA71

Bratot · 07-01-2009, 09:44 AM

Basil was illiterate all his life!

His mother was probably of Slavic origin and he was Armenian by father side.

True hardcored fullblooded Greek! haha

Soldier of Macedon · 07-01-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratot

Basil was illiterate all his life!

His mother was probably of Slavic origin and he was Armenian by father side.

True hardcired fullblooded Greek! haha

It is more than likely that both the Macedonian Dynasty and Tsar Samuel's family were a mix of local Slavonic and imported Armenian elements. The above source you posted sounds similar to the story of Justin, an illiterate peasant with a 'barbarian' wife called Lupicina, that became Roman Emperor from his humble beginnings. Such a rich history Macedonia has.

Bratot · 07-01-2009, 10:19 AM

Another interesting find:

Thomas the Slav was originally a Byzantine military and naval commander entrusted with a very high command during the reign of Emperor Leo V the Armenian.

A picture of Thomas the Slav (left) and the attack by Mourtagon (Khan Omurtag).

Khan Omurtag sent an army to help Michael II put down the rebellion which attacked the rebels from the rear and defeated them.

Bratot · 07-01-2009, 10:42 AM

And look where Thomas the Slav was born:

The Theme Armeniakon is located in eastern Turkey on the Black sea coast.

TrueMacedonian · 07-01-2009, 03:35 PM

I have a few interesting sources here;

page 11

page 12

I find it interesting that the Sultan of Egypts letter mentions Macedonians.

TrueMacedonian · 07-01-2009, 03:38 PM

page 103

page 224

07-01-2009, 08:29 AM	#31
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...esult&resnum=1 So we have sources openly citing Slavonic persons that had reached prominent positions in military and political life within East Rome, as early as the reign of Justinian and well into the Macedonian period. Who is this brilliant Slav marshal, ANDREW CRATERUS? __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

07-01-2009, 08:41 AM	#32
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	The name Craterus (Kratero) is an ancient Macedonian name by origin, used later during the Roman period also. Interestingly, this Macedonian name was used as the family name of the Christian Slav called Andrew. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

07-01-2009, 09:24 AM	#34
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	More about Macedonian soldiers in the army of East Rome. http://books.google.com/books?id=yC0MAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA71 __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

07-01-2009, 09:44 AM	#35
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	Basil was illiterate all his life! His mother was probably of Slavic origin and he was Armenian by father side. True hardcored fullblooded Greek! haha __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot Last edited by Bratot; 07-01-2009 at 09:46 AM.

07-01-2009, 10:19 AM	#37
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	Another interesting find: Thomas the Slav was originally a Byzantine military and naval commander entrusted with a very high command during the reign of Emperor Leo V the Armenian. A picture of Thomas the Slav (left) and the attack by Mourtagon (Khan Omurtag). Khan Omurtag sent an army to help Michael II put down the rebellion which attacked the rebels from the rear and defeated them. __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

07-01-2009, 09:04 AM	#33
Rogi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,343	Craterus was not only an Ancient Macedonian name, but probably one of the most powerful names in Macedonia during and after the Death of Alexander the Great. Craterus was his best general, or best fighter. He was also a Kosturchanec.

07-01-2009, 10:42 AM	#38
Bratot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,855	And look where Thomas the Slav was born: The Theme Armeniakon is located in eastern Turkey on the Black sea coast. __________________ The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

07-01-2009, 03:35 PM	#39
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	I have a few interesting sources here; page 11 page 12 I find it interesting that the Sultan of Egypts letter mentions Macedonians. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

07-01-2009, 03:38 PM	#40
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	page 103 page 224 __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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