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Old 05-01-2009, 05:07 AM   #11
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Thanks for posting this. It is very important. I will buy the book, even though it is in Greek. I think I might have to learn how to read Greek.
Would you like to have a pdf-copy of it?
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:23 AM   #12
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Would you like to have a pdf-copy of it?
How many pages is it? What did you have in mind? Is it possible for you to email the pdf version to me? I could then print it out.
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:29 AM   #13
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How many pages is it? What did you have in mind? Is it possible for you to email the pdf version to me? I could then print it out.
It is about 160 pages, I will see to that you get a copy of it, you will have it within 12 hours.
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Send me a copy too please!
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Send me a copy too please!
I will do so!
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:47 PM   #17
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-You cannot own every town/city that is inhabited by Greeks. If so Massalia would be yours, as well as Edessa
-The same observation more or less I make of you.
You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
- Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!

Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.

- I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
-I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Ouvo(?)-Tartars lost their language and took...

*the exact translation from Greek is Macedonian language
I have been researching some more, what caught my eye was the town/city of "Massalia" after some research I found out that is is in fact Marseille.
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Marseille (English alt. Marseilles IPA: /mɑrˈseɪ/; French: '[maʁsɛj]'; locally [mɑχˈsɛjɐ]; Classical Provenšal: Marselha, [maʀˈsejɔ, maʀˈsijɔ]; Mistralian Provenšal: Marsiho, [maʀˈsijɔ]), formerly known as Massalia (from Greek: Μασσαλία), is the second-largest city of France.
The above information is taken from Wikipedia.

Thus it is highly unlikely that the city which is translated as "Edessa" is the city of Edessa/Voden, it is more likely that the city of Odessa in Ukraine is referred to here.
Also taking into consideration that it is written as "Οδεσσα" in the above written text.

Also the Ouno-Tartars should be Hunno-Tartars.

Thus it should be:
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-You cannot own every city that is inhabited by Greeks. If so Marseille would be yours, as well as Odessa
-The same observation more or less I make of you.
You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
- Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!

Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.

- I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
-I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Hunno-Tartars lost their language and took...

*the exact translation from Greek is Macedonian language
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Old 05-01-2009, 08:14 PM   #18
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-You cannot own every city that is inhabited by Greeks. If so Marseille would be yours, as well as Odessa
-The same observation more or less I make of you.
You want to make the area of Monastiri yours, because there are towns there where Macedonian* is spoken, which you call Bulgarian.
- Many towns! All the towns in the area speak Bulgarian!

Do they wish to be Greeks or not?
And since they do want(to be Greek), Im not sure if language is enough proof of a peoples ethnicity.
First off, the language in question is not spoken by all, but only some Macedonian villagers. Those who speak it, do so only in their houses not in public(agora), where they speak Greek. And finally, this language is not Bulgarian, but a mix of slavic and Greek. It is not Bulgarian, Bulgarian does not exist even in Bulgaria. The cities of Macedonia are clearly Greek, the people of the area are Greek, the history of the area is Greek, and the actual land(earth/dirt) is Greek.

- I can not understand, and I never will, this idea that you have that the Macedonians lost their language and picked up Bulgarian.
-I can not see how the Bulgarians who are Hunno-Tartars lost their language and took...
What a strange thing to say. I wonder what he means by this, or what he is trying to say about the Macedonian langauge?
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An excellent effort Daskalot.
You have completely destroyed any suggestion of "Edessa".
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An excellent effort Daskalot.
You have completely destroyed any suggestion of "Edessa".
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