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Old 09-22-2008, 12:59 AM   #1
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Default Sultan Mohamed IV letter to the Cossacks from 1675!

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"In 1675 (Evarnickij 1895:517) or 1678 (Golobuckij 1957:320), the Sultan of Turkey and the Crimean Khan are said to have unsuccessfully attacked the Zaporozhian fortress of Sic' (Russian Sec') Following this fiasco, the Sultan of Turkey supposedly sent a threatening missive to the Zaporozhian cossacks demanding their submission to him, to which the cossacks replied with an abusive parody of the Sultan's letter."

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From THE ZAPOROZHIAN LETTER TO THE TURKISH SULTAN: HISTORICAL COMMENTARY AND LINGUISTIC ANALYSYS by Victor A. Friedman published in Slavica Hierosolymitana, Vol. 2. Jerusalem: Magnes. 1978. P. 25-38.
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:58 AM   #2
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Note: no mention of Greece.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:47 AM   #3
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This one is from Мелик Насир-ад Дин Мухамед от 1340-41 до император Андроник ІІІ Палеолог
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Писмо от мамелюкския султан Мелик Насир-ад Дин Мухамед от 1340-41 до император Андроник ІІІ Палеолог:
До [...] благоразумния Андроник [...] меч на македонското царство, на доблестното елинско войнство, император на България и Влахия и Алания, самодържец на Русия и Иверия, и турците, и наследник на Римската империя, властни на две морета и реки, Дука Ангел Комнин Палеолог
Писмо от султан Мелик Насир-ад Дин Хасан до Йоан VI Кантакузин от 30 октомври 1349 г.:
[....] меч на македонците [....] император на елините, император на българите, асаниите, власите, русите, аланите, чест на учението на ивири и сирийци, наследник на империята на своята земя, властелин на моретата, велики реки и острови Ангел Комнин Палеолог Кантакузин

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"Византия - лекционен курс" на проф. Бакалов
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It's a bit embarassing but I actually need a translation for this. It looks important though.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:45 AM   #5
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Note: no mention of Greece.
Because there was no Greece, it came into existence in 1830.... before there were the Hellenist city states, nothing else.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:53 AM   #6
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Писмо от мамелюкския султан Мелик Насир-ад Дин Мухамед от 1340-41 до император Андроник ІІІ Палеолог:
До [...] благоразумния Андроник [...] меч на македонското царство, на доблестното елинско войнство, император на България и Влахия и Алания, самодържец на Русия и Иверия, и турците, и наследник на Римската империя, властни на две морета и реки, Дука Ангел Комнин Палеолог
Писмо от султан Мелик Насир-ад Дин Хасан до Йоан VI Кантакузин от 30 октомври 1349 г.:
[....] меч на македонците [....] император на елините, император на българите, асаниите, власите, русите, аланите, чест на учението на ивири и сирийци, наследник на империята на своята земя, властелин на моретата, велики реки и острови Ангел Комнин Палеолог Кантакузин

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"Византия - лекционен курс" на проф. Бакалов
Here is a google translate version of it, not perfect but will suffice:

Letter from mamelyukskiya Sultan Melik Nasir ad-Din Muhamed from 1340-41 to the emperor Andronicus III Palaiologos:
[...] To [...] blagorazumniya Andronicus sword of the Macedonian kingdom, the brave Hellenic host as emperor of Bulgaria and Wallachia and Alan, samodarzhets Russia's Iveriya, and the Turks and heir of the Roman Empire, the rule of two seas and rivers, Duke Angel Komnenos Palaiologos
Letter from the Sultan Melik Nasir ad-Din Hassan VI to John Kantakuzin 30 October 1349:
[....] Sword of Macedonians [....] Emperor of the Hellenes, emperor of Bulgaria, Asano, powers, Russia, Alan, honor of the teachings of iviri and Syrians, heir to the empire of his own land, ruler of the seas, great rivers and islands Angel Komnenos Palaiologos Kantakuzin

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"Byzantium - lecture course" Prof. Bakalov
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