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Old 06-04-2019, 09:32 AM   #41
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Great find Bill. They are absolutely phenomenal. I checked out some of their other songs and, this one in particular, caught me by surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqogBKEyMvI

I have never heard this song before. It's really heartwarming to see this group undertaking such an important labour of love in preserving these cultural gems from Aegean Macedonia before they are forgotten forever.
Thanks Karposh....... what beautiful sounds they produce. I've never heard them before and i'm really enjoying them.

Its amazing sound what old classical Macedonian instruments make compared to modern bands and there electric synthesizers, guitars and drum kits. I think the genre is called Chalgija old urban traditional folk music. i don't care if the instruments have been adopted from the Ottomans..... i'll have the sounds of the simple Tambourine, tarabuka, Lute, violin anytime, it just takes me places back in time.

PS: the video you posted suggests the music is from the region of Voden, so it answers my original question
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Old 06-04-2019, 10:19 AM   #42
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I think the genre is called Chalgija old urban traditional folk music. i don't care if the instruments have been adopted from the Ottomans..... i'll have the sounds of the simple Tambourine, tarabuka, Lute, violin anytime, it just takes me places back in time.
One name - Tale Ognenovski

Also I agree, it was a beautiful find, for some reason I have found the violin tends to make a more prominent appearance in Aegean songs, particularly ones originating from around Voden, brings out a uniqueness that I really tend to enjoy
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:10 AM   #43
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I remember seeing Biser Balkanski sun in Vlach a few years back on youtube.
Is that still on youtube by any chance?

Toshe Proeski, Pero Pare and Filomeni Maja sing Sh-ira noapte, sh-avea luna (One Moonlit Night). Toshe was 12 in this video.

Youtube URL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=WZjKJll8t4s

One Moonlit Night
I heard the voice of an Arman (Vlach) woman
weeping on her wedding crown

The poor woman cried and screamed
and tore the hair from her head
she spoke to her young son

“Son if you grow up
do not forget your good parents
and to the Greci without mercy
pay them back twice”

“Mother, if l grow up
I will not forget my good parents
and to the Greci without mercy
I will pay them back ten times”

URL - page 369:
http://vuir.vu.edu.au/423/3/Anastaso...Nick%20PhD.pdf



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Old 07-22-2019, 04:13 PM   #44
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I simply assumed anything sounding like "Arman" was related to the Armenians. Is it really Vlach?
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I simply assumed anything sounding like "Arman" was related to the Armenians. Is it really Vlach?
That's correct, the Vlachs themselves use the endonym "Armăn" (plural "Armăni") etymologically from "Romanus" ("Roman"). A while back I also posted a testimony/discovery where it is mentioned how the inhabitants of medieval "Byzantine Greece" (at a time when Byzantium was simply called Romania) colloquially referred to their country as Armania.

The term "Vlach" is an exonym (the slavicized Meglen Vlachs appear to be a 'recent' exception, as they call themselves Vlasi).

For example, the Polish people even today refer to Italians as "Vlachs"; i.e. Italy is Republika Włoska and Italians are Włochy.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82ochy
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I’m pretty sure I’ve linked a live version of Makedonsko Devojce by these guys but here’s their official single and it’s pretty good. The group is called Barcelona Gypsy Klezmer Orchestra (BGKO) and, honestly, if you didn’t know the girl singing is actually of Catalonian heritage, you’d swear she was a native Macedonian. She’s that good.

Incidentally, I was reading some of the posted YouTube comments and I really liked the explanation one Macedonian gave to the question of what the song was about. “It’s what every Macedonian father sings to his daughter”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5-rIr9zbS8
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Old 12-27-2019, 05:37 AM   #48
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One name - Tale Ognenovski
You're not wrong Tomche. The man is a legend. I actually got to hear him play (even if it was brief) while he was still alive when I was in Brusnik back in 2005. It was during the Sv.Petka celebrations (patron saint of Brusnik) and Brusnichani had hired some Gypsy musicians from Bitola for the day's festivities. It wasn't long before all the young and drunk Brusnichani started the chant in front of Tale's house (his house is na sred selo) "Tale!, Tale!, Tale!" He came out from his house after a while just to humour the kids a little but you could tell he was quite old and frail and wasn't feeling too comfortable. In the end, he had a crack though and put the hired gypsies to shame.
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This is about the limit of my taste for Serbian music and why I am going back to Japan next week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z5JbiZxnn4
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