![]() |
|||||||||
|
|||||||||
|
![]() |
|
Thread Tools |
![]() |
#261 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Outpost
Posts: 13,660
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() More from Ostrgorski, this time relating to events that took place after Samuel was toppled. Basil was rather 'sympathetic' by the usual standards of a conqueror, despite the people of Macedonia being the most important element in the former empire led by Samuel. Perhaps it was sentimental due to his own Macedonian heritage (and that of the Macedonia Theme where he came from). His actions don't appear to reflect a cruel emperor that would blind 15,000 soldiers who were largely Macedonian (not that I am discounting a severe punishment of some sort). Overall, this book from Ostrogorski is a good read, but one part I disagree with is his view of the Ohrid Patriarchate as a revival of the Bulgarian church. He fails to draw the same conclusion with the church as he does with the state, despite using similar criteria.
Quote:
![]() The extent of jurisdiction for the Archbishopric of Ohrid in Macedonia around the same period. ![]()
__________________
In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#262 | ||||
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Outpost
Posts: 13,660
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() With regard to the below by Ostrogorski which I cited earlier:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian. |
||||
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#263 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Outpost
Posts: 13,660
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() Below is a picture of a certified museum terracota copy of a ceramic cup with the 16-ray Ancient Macedonian sun, dated the 3rd century BC and excavated in the Ohrid fortress of Samuel. It is currently in the hands of the 'Institute for Protection of Cultural Monuments and the National Museum of Ohrid'. Given the place where it was recovered, it is likely that such items from antiquity were used in a decorative if not practical manner in the capital of Samuel's state in Macedonia.
![]() Here is another item from Samuel's fortress. ![]() The below picture is of a flag depicting Alexander that was created in the 10th century and is currently found in the Wrzburg museum (Bavaria). Earlier in this thread there is an article which suggests that it may have been an Easter gift by Samuel and Aaron to Western Roman Emperor Otto III. Samuel visited the emperor in Quedlinburg during 973 seeking recognition for his state. It would be good to confirm how the museum came by this flag. ![]()
__________________
In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#264 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 46
![]() |
![]() An University of Texas LRC blog post on Samuil.
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#265 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia
Posts: 3,242
![]() |
![]() Krivan
In short, more people telling us who we are or who we were! When are we going to start telling them who we are and stop waiting for them to determine our status?
__________________
On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden" |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#266 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Commonwealth of Australia (Britania)
Posts: 1,993
![]() |
![]() I am more inclined towards Tsar Samoil, what do people think about Basil II?
Самуиловото царство - YouTube
__________________
Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија. Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#267 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Macedonian Outpost
Posts: 13,660
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() Why are you more inclined towards Samoil? Personally, I find good things about both of them, and perhaps some not so good things (depending on how one looks at it).
__________________
In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#268 |
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,328
![]() |
![]() Here are the remains of Samuel in the Byzantine Museum of Thessaloniki, presented to the Bulgarian President about a month ago.
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#269 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,003
![]() |
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#270 |
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,328
![]() |
![]() The picture of the skeleton when first found and a drawing (by Moutsopoulos) that recreates Samuel's face.
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Tags |
battle of belasica, blindings, bloodlines, macedonia, myth, ohrid archbishopric, ohrid patriarchate, samoil samuel basilii, samuil, tsar samoil |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
|
|