Up to 16 killed as Israeli forces storm aid convoy

[Onur]

Well Said Onur, our people in Macedonia lost many Jews in WW2. The Bulgarian Nazis put them on trains straight to Treblinka Death camp in Poland.

Yes and same happened in Greece too but i found the trailer of a documentary about Turkey`s role in holocaust of WW-2. A documentary by American Jewish director;

YouTube - Desperate Hours - Turkey's Rescue of Jews- Türklerin Yahudileri Hitler'den Kurtarması

http://www.shenandoahfilm.com/dh.htm

Press Quotes;

* “Desperate Hours” is a truly unique work of documentary filmmaking, combining a compelling story with thorough historical research and outstanding directorial skills.”
– Carol Bidault, Director and Founder – DCIFF


* “...relying much on eyewitness accounts for this mostly unaccounted history of unchartered heroism, fast-forwards the past through the eyes of survivors…and makes for a movie of timeless appeal”
- Jewish Exponent


* “I strongly commend all those associated with the film “Desperate Hours”…directed and produced by Victoria Barrett… for helping to elucidate and publicize one of the most important chapters in the long, dramatic, and mutually rewarding history shared by the Jewish and Turkish peoples.”
- Hon. Tom Lantos of California in the House of Representatives


* “In the annals of World War II heroism, Turkey’s work in saving over 20,000 European Jews has been neglected, a slight this refreshingly old fashioned documentary seeks to correct.”
- Chuck Wilson, LA Weekly Review



Awards;

* The Grand Jury Award for Best Documentary
– 2003 DC Independent Film Festival

* The Audience Award for Best Documentary
- 2003 DC Independent Film Festival

* The film has been honored with diplomatic screenings in Geneva and Rome and a special screening at the U.S. Library of Congress

* Ms. Barrett was also recognized for Creative Excellence as director of Desperate Hours at the International Film and Video Festival and received the Bnai Brith Canada International Excellence in the Arts Award for 2004

[Soldier of Macedon]

Turkish-Israeli relations deteriorate over UN's Gaza flotilla report

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-03/turkish-israeli-relations-deteriorate-over-uns/2869176?section=world

Turkey is expelling the Israeli ambassador and suspending all military agreements with its one-time ally following the release of a UN report into last year's deadly raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla. The UN has found Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal and appropriate but the report criticises Israeli commandos for using excessive and unreasonable force on the flotilla which led to the deaths of nine people.

[Onur]

About half of Turkish people dislike Erdogan and his policies and unhappy with our current affairs with Israel but ofc in a paranoid state as Israel, there are people like their FM Lieberman;

Israel to ‘punish’ Turkey
Jerusalem fights back: Foreign Minister Lieberman formulates series of tough moves in response to Turkish steps; Israel to cooperate with Armenian lobby in US, may offer military aid to Kurdish rebels

Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey’s latest anti-Israeli moves, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.

Senior Foreign Ministry officials convened Thursday to prepare for a meeting to be held Saturday with Lieberman on the matter. Saturday’s session will be dedicated to discussing Israel’s response to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s recent threats and his decision to downgrade Ankara’s diplomatic ties with Jerusalem.

Following Thursday’s meeting, officials assessed that Turkey is not interested in an Israeli apology at this time and prefers to exploit the dispute with Jerusalem in order to promote Ankara’s status in the Muslim world. Lieberman therefore decided there was no point in seeking creative formulas for apologizing, instead choosing to focus Israel’s efforts on punishing Turkey.

The Foreign Ministry has now decided to proceed with the formulation of a diplomatic and security “toolbox” to be used against the Turks. The first move would be to issue a travel warning urging all Israeli military veterans to refrain from traveling to Turkey. The advisory will be especially harsh as it will also urge Israelis to refrain from boarding connections in Turkey.

Another planned Israeli move is the facilitation of cooperation with Turkey’s historic rivals, the Armenians. During Lieberman’s visit to the United States this month, the foreign minister is expected to meet with leaders of the Armenian lobby and propose anti-Turkish cooperation in Congress.

The implication of this move could be Israeli assistance in promoting international recognition of the Armenian holocaust, a measure that would gravely harm Turkey. Israel may also back Armenia in its dispute vis-à-vis Turkey over control of Mount Ararat.

‘Turkey better show respect’
Lieberman is also planning to set meetings with the heads of Kurdish rebel group PKK in Europe in order to “cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area.” In these meetings, the Kurds may ask Israel for military aid in the form of training and arms supplies, a move that would constitute a major anti-Turkish position should it materialize.

However, the violent clashes between Turkey and the Kurds only constitute one reason prompting accusations that Ankara is violating human rights. Hence, another means in Lieberman’s “toolbox” vis-à-vis Erdogan is a diplomatic campaign where Israeli missions worldwide will be instructed to join the fight and report illegal Turkish moves against minorities.

The tough response formulated by Lieberman stems, among other things, from the foreign minister’s desire to make it clear to Erdogan that his anti-Israeli moves are not a “one-way street.”

Officials in Jerusalem also noted that Turkey’s global status at this time is not promising as it is, adding that Ankara is embroiled in tensions vis-à-vis NATO and Greece, while Erdogan’s relations with Syria and Iran are also not favorable.

“We’ll exact a price from Erdogan that will prove to him that messing with Israel doesn’t pay off,” Lieberman said. “Turkey better treat us with respect and common decency.”

Published: 09.09.11

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...119984,00.html

Israel`s government is doing whatever it takes to help Erdogan to bolster his support in Turkey. What they don't understand is currently only our government pursuits this policy but big majority of Turkish people doesnt have any hostility towards Israels. BUT if they do such things like helping PKK, then they will find the whole Turkey hating them and probably Erdogan will have big grin on his face.

I have no idea how come a FM of a proper state can advise supporting an organization which recognized as a terrorists. Greece did that b4 but that wasn't so surprising to anyone in Turkey cuz it was something expected from them but no one did this "openly".

Imho, if they do such things, then they bring their own doom.

[George S.]

The israelis being friendly with the americans can get away with anything it virtually likes.
So it's not surprising if fighting flares up.