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Old 11-29-2009, 06:34 AM   #11
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To the present day Slaveski i apologise as they are not to blame what happened
in the past.I hope they are not offended
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:22 AM   #12
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A couple of years ago, one of his descendants was on the news complaining that some airline didn't help him on the plane when he couldn't breathe, don't know if a lawsuit eventuated. His name was Sky i think if my memory serves me right.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:26 AM   #13
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The song with the lyrics Bog da go bie Veljan od Recica is wrong, it should be Bog da go ubie Veljan Slaveski, not fair for everyone else from Recica.

Бог да го убие Вељан од Речица,
нане мила нане, Вељан од Речица
што ги предаде седум осум души
Седум осум души, с млади момчина
се млади момчиња, сите Македонци
нане мила нане, сите Македонци

Bog da go ubie Veljan od Rechica
Nane Mile Nane, Veljan Od Rechica
shto gi predade sedum osum dushi,
sedum osum dushi, se mladi momchina,
se mladi momchinja, site Makedonci,
nane mila nane, site Makedonci.

May God kill Veljan from Rechitsa,
nane dear nane, Veljan from Rechitsa,
who betrayed seven, eight peoplem
seven eight people, all young men,
all young men, all Macedonians,
nane dear nane, all Macedonians
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:30 AM   #14
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Is it fair for everybody with the surname of Slavevski to wear this stigma?
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:58 AM   #15
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Is it fair for everybody with the surname of Slavevski to wear this stigma?
No it's not, the topic only refers to Veljan Slaveski, why do some of his descendants trying to intimidate people to delete the info about their ancestor "Veljan Slavev" betrayal.
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Yes, well the song refers only to Veljan of Recica, not everybody in Recica, and Veljan's relatives aren't the only one's that have that surname.

As for people trying to intimidate, come on mate, let's not start creating fictions. Do you have a specific example of one of his descendants using 'intimidation' against somebody here to delete information? I doubt you have anything other than speculation, which I take it is based on George's recent posts concerning the topic. Have you been threatened yourself? If so, please alert us to who this is and we can address the matter through our administrative channels here, as that sort of behaviour will not be tolerated, and will be brought to the attention of the appropriate persons and/or bodies for their action.

What information has been deleted about Veljan? You have me interested.
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Yes, well the song refers only to Veljan of Recica, not everybody in Recica, and Veljan's relatives aren't the only one's that have that surname.

As for people trying to intimidate, come on mate, let's not start creating fictions. Do you have a specific example of one of his descendants using 'intimidation' against somebody here to delete information? I doubt you have anything other than speculation, which I take it is based on George's recent posts concerning the topic. Have you been threatened yourself? If so, please alert us to who this is and we can address the matter through our administrative channels here, as that sort of behaviour will not be tolerated, and will be brought to the attention of the appropriate persons and/or bodies for their action.

What information has been deleted about Veljan? You have me interested.
You're correct, it is George_S that told me that, apparently some idividual with the username sky messaged him stating the above things i said in my post.

my post is based on what George_S told me, George has deleted all his posts in this thread, the one's he posted about his ancestor being one of the komiti who died becaue of the predavnik veljan slaveski, Rogi also deleted his posts.

I have not been approached by anyone yet, and nobody whether they threaten me with legal action or whatsoever can change my posts on this predavnik.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:54 AM   #18
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By the way, i'm not trying to start fictions, just wanted to put my stand on this topic out there for the descendants of Veljan predavnikot or anyone else that is "Offended" by this topic.

As for the stigma, ask anyone who is from Recica and not a Slaveski descendant, they will tell you things how other Macedonians react when they find out they're from Recica because of this Predavnik over 100 years ago.

Just like the song about Gjorgi Sugarev, original lyrics has predavnici Paralovci, labelling all Paralovci as predavnici, when in reality it was Petre Ligushev who betrayed Sugarev, however some people blame Paralovci just because Petre Ligushev was from Paralovo.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:10 PM   #19
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GeorgeS, were you threatened to delete the comments you posted? That was not my understanding, but if it is the case, please advise.
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If this person was/is a member, the appropriate action would be to provide any alternative perspectives in relation to this matter on this very thread. Let them defend their stance here.
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