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Old 08-20-2015, 04:17 PM   #1
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Purpose: The purpose of this thread will be to explore the epigraphs found in the region of Macedonia. These will include inscriptions written in any and all of the languages used in the region of Macedonia from various time periods. For the purpose of this thread, we define Macedonia as the region outlined by black dashes in this map (click).

I will commence an with inscription that mentions the Macedonian god Δάῤῥων (click):

The inscription was found in Pella, Macedonia and is dated back to 200-150 BC. It reads:

"(Ἀ)μφίπολις Δάρρωνι εὐξαμένη ἐπηκόωι."

The proposed interpretation is:

"(A)mphipolis, who prayed to benevolent Darrhon."

Note: Google translate didn't recognize the terms "εὐξαμένη (euxameni)" and "ἐπηκόωι (epikooi)." Is it possible that these are distinct Macedonian variations of Greek words, or are they altogether exclusive to Macedonian?

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Old 08-20-2015, 05:39 PM   #2
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euxameni = замоли?
epikooi = кој?

Interesting inscription
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euxameni = замоли?
epikooi = кој?

Interesting inscription
Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. Do any of our Greek members recognize those words?
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Interesting. Thanks for pointing that out. Do any of our Greek members recognize those words?
Yes, try this way (in masculine gender & nominative case).

Ευξάμενος (euxamenos = the one who has whised, prayed)
https://www.google.gr/search?q=%CE%B...TCL4mPU7f-s_AJ

Επήκοος (epikoos = the one who listens)
https://www.google.gr/search?q=%CE%B...BF%CE%BF%CF%82


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Old 08-23-2015, 10:50 AM   #5
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Yes, try this way (in masculine gender & nominative case).

Ευξάμενος (euxamenos = the one who has whised, prayed)
https://www.google.gr/search?q=%CE%B...TCL4mPU7f-s_AJ

Επήκοος (epikoos = the one who listens)
https://www.google.gr/search?q=%CE%B...BF%CE%BF%CF%82


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Thanks for clarifying that.

Here's another inscription. These are the details:

"Makedonia (Pelagonia) — Bogomila — 55/56 AD — Spomenik 98 (1941-1948) 164, 340 (click)." <--for some reason, the URL doesn't take you to the inscription directly. Follow this path:

Regions: Northern Greece (IG X): Macedonia > Pelagonia > Bogomila > IG X,2 2 > 279

The inscription says:

Quote:
"Δουλης Κοτυος πᾶσιν φίλος· τοῦ γσʹ."
Running it through Google Translate I got:

Quote:
"Servant Kotys, friend to all(?); the "γσʹ"
I haven't been successful in finding a translation/meaning of "γσʹ." What do you make of it?

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It could be a number, but it's not correct, or a fragment or a mistake. I don't have any ideas.

This was found in Bogomila and was published during late 1940s in this Spomenik journal you see above that is a Serbian archaeological journal. Normally, the publication should have pictures and a full (as possible) translation and analysis.
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It could be a number, but it's not correct, or a fragment or a mistake. I don't have any ideas.

This was found in Bogomila and was published during late 1940s in this Spomenik journal you see above that is a Serbian archaeological journal. Normally, the publication should have pictures and a full (as possible) translation and analysis.
Assuming that it is a number, do you have an interpretation of it?
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Assuming that it is a number, do you have an interpretation of it?
Actually, it IS a number. Searching randomly in this website I found several inscriptions where numbers are written with letters in reverse order. This is another example:

Regions : Northern Greece (IG X) : Macedonia : Odomantike : Agio Pneuma

SEG 46:708
Makedonia (Odomantike) — Ag. Pneuma — 26/27 AD — AD 46 B (1991) 318-319

ἔτους δορʹ, Ὑπερβ-
ταίου γʹ· Κετριζις Μεσ-
τικένθου, εὐδαί-
μων, χαῖρε· χαῖρε καὶ σὺ παροδῖτα· Μάντα γυνή.


Thus γσ' (properly written σγ') is 203rd. (number of year, numbering starts from 148 BC)


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So what has macedonian numbering got to do with greek i thought the ancient macedonian was incomprehensible to the greeks.???Thats one reason why macedonians are referred to as barbarians for their non greekness.Amphipolis you are happy to present your alternative crap the mods should have you banned.You shoild know that we macedonians won't tolerate your bs here.Also don't try to bs to us here as we are on to you.
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So what has macedonian numbering got to do with greek i thought the ancient macedonian was incomprehensible to the greeks.???Thats one reason why macedonians are referred to as barbarians for their non greekness.Amphipolis you are happy to present your alternative crap the mods should have you banned.You shoild know that we macedonians won't tolerate your bs here.Also don't try to bs to us here as we are on to you.

These are not MY views and they're certainly not alternative. These are the common Greek numerals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals

From the above link:
This alphabetic system operates on the additive principle in which the numeric values of the letters are added together to obtain the total. For example, 241 was represented as ΣΜΑ' (200 + 40 + 1). (It was not always the case that the numbers ran from highest to lowest: a 4th-century BC inscription at Athens placed the units to the left of the tens. This practice continued in Asia Minor well into the Roman period.[2])

Regarding the year, there were two different numberings in Macedonia at the period. The one was known as Macedonian Year starting at 148 BC, the other known as Sebaston Year starting at 31 BC.

The two inscriptions of the above posts #5 and #8 have the number of year ON them (lucky archaelogists).


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