Macedonian Flags and Coat of Arms

Sarafot · 02-08-2009, 05:30 PM

Грбот на Александар Македонски е присутен во европската традиција од 14 век. Тој е составен дел од групата на „девете достојни“ и се појавува во пет ракописи, досега откриени. Најчеста е преставата на лав, и тоа златен на црвено поле.

На сликава Александар е придружуван од Цезар (Chavalier errant, B.N Paris, 1394)

The coat of Alexander Macedonian is present in european tradition since 14 st. It is part of group ''nine worthy'' and it is showen in five manuscript explored until now. Most time it is present like golden lion on red platform-field

http://heraldika.org.mk/

Risto the Great · 02-08-2009, 06:05 PM

http://heraldika.org.mk/

Hey, I like this group.

TrueMacedonian · 02-09-2009, 04:39 PM

That's an awesome picture.

TerraNova · 02-09-2009, 04:51 PM

Whose the guy with the Byzantine coat of arms on the shield?He looks like a king too.

Ne Smassen · 02-09-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerraNova

Whose the guy with the Byzantine coat of arms on the shield?He looks like a king too.

I think that's King Gaschi Serakis from Chalkidiki

Venom · 02-09-2009, 05:18 PM

Ne Smessen, I think that was pretty smesno

Risto the Great · 02-09-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerraNova

Whose the guy with the Byzantine coat of arms on the shield?He looks like a king too.

Clearly he was an Albanian.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-10-2009, 03:28 AM

I think it's Julius Ceasar.

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2856097

The above is very interesting given the yellow and red colours featuring a rampant lion, as this is a medieval symbol of Macedonia.

Soldier of Macedon · 02-10-2009, 03:35 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Worthies

http://www.heraldica.org/topics/worthies.htm

Quote:

Alexander the Great

Azure a king in his majesty seated on a throne all or (BC)
Or a lion gules armed and langued azure (JB)
Gules two lions or confronting (BC)
Sable a griffon or (HB)

Meaning Alexander was represented with other heraldry also, but predominantly with a lion or lions.

It always starts with Hector and second is Alexander, check the far left, second in line, a red background with two lions (or 3?):

Soldier of Macedon · 02-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Anybody have anymore information on this topic?

I think it is very interesting given the symbol accompanying Alexander as depicted by northern and western Europeans is almost the same as the medieval symbol of Macedonia.

14th Century - Nine Worthies

16th Century - Korenich Rolls

17th Century - Ohmuchevich

02-08-2009, 05:30 PM	#1
Sarafot Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Celje/Виница Posts: 616	Macedonian Flags and Coat of Arms Грбот на Александар Македонски е присутен во европската традиција од 14 век. Тој е составен дел од групата на „девете достојни“ и се појавува во пет ракописи, досега откриени. Најчеста е преставата на лав, и тоа златен на црвено поле. На сликава Александар е придружуван од Цезар (Chavalier errant, B.N Paris, 1394) The coat of Alexander Macedonian is present in european tradition since 14 st. It is part of group ''nine worthy'' and it is showen in five manuscript explored until now. Most time it is present like golden lion on red platform-field http://heraldika.org.mk/ __________________ Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците. - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

02-08-2009, 06:05 PM	#2
Risto the Great Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Colony of Australia Posts: 15,639	http://heraldika.org.mk/ Hey, I like this group. __________________ Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution." Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

02-09-2009, 04:39 PM	#3
TrueMacedonian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,809	That's an awesome picture. __________________ Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

02-09-2009, 05:18 PM	#6
Venom Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 445	Ne Smessen, I think that was pretty smesno __________________ S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

02-10-2009, 03:28 AM	#8
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	I think it's Julius Ceasar. http://www.jstor.org/pss/2856097 The above is very interesting given the yellow and red colours featuring a rampant lion, as this is a medieval symbol of Macedonia. __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

02-09-2009, 04:51 PM	#4
TerraNova Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 473	Whose the guy with the Byzantine coat of arms on the shield?He looks like a king too.

02-13-2009, 08:17 PM	#10
Soldier of Macedon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Macedonian Outpost Posts: 13,660	Anybody have anymore information on this topic? I think it is very interesting given the symbol accompanying Alexander as depicted by northern and western Europeans is almost the same as the medieval symbol of Macedonia. 14th Century - Nine Worthies 16th Century - Korenich Rolls 17th Century - Ohmuchevich __________________ In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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