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Old 06-23-2012, 12:35 PM   #21
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I don't have the direct link, but this http://www.sbs.com.au/news/census/ link has heaps of info


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AMHRC, there's your answer: 2977 Macedonians were born in Greece, up from 2856 in 2006.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:39 PM   #22
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Sorry, after taking a second look those are not people who declared themselves Macedonian, those are people who declared speaking Macedonian language
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:29 PM   #23
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AMHRC, there's your answer: 2977 Macedonians were born in Greece, up from 2856 in 2006.
Niko thanks for thinking of us. Though I should point out that we began a thread on this topic in the news and politics section of this forum, well before this one was begun. Just why this second thread on the same topic was started, we don't know. Moreover, if you examine the other thread, you will find that we had already posted the SBS link you were given by TWLR, before he gave it to you...
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:21 PM   #24
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I was speaking to spase karovski who speacialises in statistics,population demgraphy & ethnography.He said the macedonian census one is a acomplex one yet simply.There's people from the agean who really are macedonians but have chosen to be greek,then there's others that will not divulge anything.Some will divulge the language,others still are yugoslav identifiers.There are so many variations that it is a hodgepodge & people won't reveal who they are.Perhaps if people are interviewed individually & the census get's to be filled in properly..Then you got ones that are fearfull to divulge of who they are in case they feel retribution from greeks.etc
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And there is the stupidity factor that stems from the village slave mentality.
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Back, in the 1970's if you asked any G'rkoman where they were from ... "FROM NORTHERN GREECE" and NEVER just GREECE. (see territorial claims)

Don't, even try to figure these misfits out.
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Well all of shepparton is grkoman, pat eras, sfetcopolous, kreskas, paraskevas, paras, to name a few. they only have a greek church.
no...all of shep isn't grkoman.
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no...all of shep isn't grkoman.
Indeed. Many Macedonians from the village of Dragosh, R.Macedonia live in Shepparton. Most migrated in the 1950s. Here's the website of the Shepparton soccer club;

http://www.sheppartonsoccerclub.com.au/

"Formerly named as Lemnos Makedonia, Shepparton is nicknamed "The Reds",Shepparton's home colours are red and black stripes, similar to Macedonian team FK Vardar.
Shepparton once had former Cambridge Utd player Michael Kyd have a guest stint at the club.

Shepparton is the GNEFA's most successful senior club, having won eight premierships as Lemnos and six as Shepparton for a total of 14. Shepparton home games are played at Mercury Drive.The club forms the base of Preston Lions supporters club of country victoria."

This club also competes in the Macedonian Cup, along with the other ethnic Macedonian teams in Victoria;

http://www.macedoniancup.com.au/

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Old 06-24-2012, 11:42 PM   #29
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Indeed. Many Macedonians from the village of Dragosh, R.Macedonia live in Shepparton. Most migrated in the 1950's...
Very true...there's several very successful families in Shep that settled from Dragos(h)...many living in Melbourne and Geelong today also first settled in Shep.

To call it all grkoman is simply not true, sadly misleading and a total insult to many Macedonians in Shep...I would imagine.

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Very true...there's several very successful families in Shep that settled from Dragos(h)...many living in Melbourne and Geelong today also first settled in Shep.

To call it all grkoman is simply not true, sadly misleading and a total insult to many Macedonians in Shep...I would imagine.
Yes but phoenix that is exactly my point i am not talking about people who originate from the republic i am talking about those who come from lerin or surrounding areas not from in the republic. These people are all grkomani i would say alms t 100%. Some of these families are, the paras, pateras, paraskevas, kreskas, sfetcopolous etc. You would be very hard pressed to find someone who originated form lerin or aegean who is not grkoman:: good luck more chance winning tatts. Ps they all make me sick. Cant speak greek to save themselves but still call themselves greek. It is a disease.
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