Dedo Iljo Vojvoda fought with his 206 Macedonians!
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My opinion??
We were Macedonians from before Alexander the Great, continued to call ourselves so through the times of Kiril i Metodi and Car Samoil. The likes of brakjata Miladinovci and Marko Cepenkov committed their lives to preserving our culture, while Macedonians like Goce Delchev, literally, fought and died for Macedonia, in the name of Macedonia. This is all documented in history of course, and we even see scholars from throughout the ages refer to a Macedonian people.
Indeed, it's saddening to see such malicious actions from our own neighbours... more saddening to know that this isn't a recent political game, but something going on for at least 100+ years.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostIs the Dedo Iljo cited in this source the same Dedo Iljo Maleshevski? The below link says that he is also know as Pop Gorgiev.
Wikipedia has seriously gone down the drain, now even Dedo Iljo is a 'Bulgar' as Bulgarian lies and historical manipulations are accepted without an argument. Apart from the light reference, Wikipedia is next to useless.
That Wikipedia article is full of factual errors (probably deliberate).
The picture of the Macedonian warlord is the Priest Berovski, from Berovo.
Dedo Ilija "Maleshevets" is a completely different person. Secondly, Dedo Ilija was a Macedonian, not a Bulgarian. He led the Russo-Macedonian brigade in the Serbian wars against the Turks. Any suggestion he identified as a Bulgarian is a lie, and just a modern spin. There were no Bulgarian political units operating in Macedonia at that time.
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Last edited by makedonin; 02-22-2009, 05:15 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Rogi, although I wouldn't have taken the same approach to reaction as Pelister did, the literal translation of VOI (war) VODA (leader) is War-Leader, which is much closer to a Warlord than it is to a Duke, who in actual fact is supposed to be a member of some nobility.
I doubt that Jordan Piperka and Georgi Sugarev came from the nobility, and they are both known Voivodi. I don't know how and when Duke became identified with Voivoda, I take it that it would have happened during the late middle ages.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostThe people of VMRO were called 'Komiti' or 'Komitadji', as they were members of the 'Komitet' (Committee). A group of Komiti were called a 'Cheta', and the leader of the group was the Vojvoda, which literally means 'War Leader' but the best equivalent in English is 'Warlord' or also 'Duke' as Magedon stated.
Komitadzi were what Mihajlov's VMRO rebels were called.Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.
Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.
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Originally posted by Rogi View PostJust to clear something up....
Paul, the correct translation of 'Vojvoda' is Duke. It is not Warlord (Gospodar na Vojnata).
But the picture on my avatar. I always thought it was Pop Berovski, but I've been told it is Ilija Maleshev. Can anyone help with that ?
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Originally posted by VMRO View PostKomitadzi were what Mihajlov's VMRO rebels were called.
In Iljo Maleshevski's time, they were not referred to as komiti, but as Ajduci, Ajduts.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostKomitadji is simply Komiti with the common Turkish suffix that is sometimes used by Balkan peoples such as Macedonians, Albanians and Greeks. I don't think it specifically relates to the dog Mihailov's men. Take for example Mother Teresa and her surname, Bojaxhiu (Bojadziu).
True.
Have you realised some say Kumitie, not komitite, like in the song "Ja izlezi Gjurgo".Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.
Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.
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