Documents of Macedonian Immigration

[George S.]

It's a minefield of info.Especially the old newspapers,you used to be able to peruse via internet old newspapers via the state archives at the NSW state library.I don't know if it's still available.If people identified as Macedonians in Australia back in 1925 that would be a rare find indeed.It would be a very important document to prove our identity to the Australian GovernmentIn any submissions.
THe other thing as far as the Macedonian identity.Most Macedonians & if not all identified as Yugoslavs.

[TrueMacedonian]

Pelister this is excellent.

[Risto the Great]

"racially more Slavic than Greek"

Merely highlights how ignorant these people are.

Notwithstanding this, it is nice to know the Government of Australia has been well aware of the "fake" Greeks for about 85 years now.

[Bij]

this saddens me. makes me wonder if us makedonci are facing some type of eternal curse to never be treated the way we should

[TrueMacedonian]

Originally Posted by Bij

this saddens me. makes me wonder if us makedonci are facing some type of eternal curse to never be treated the way we should

The true curse is when Macedonians don't learn their own history. Only then will Macedonians realize why it is we are in the boat we are in today. It's sites like MTO that are providing this history. All you have to do is take some time out to read and research.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Pelister, that is a strong find mate, well done. Where can we access more, state library?

Thanks SoM. I been having a bit of dig at the National Archives recently, so I'll post some more stuff as I find it.

This particular file is stored at the National Archives of Australia (Canberra Branch).

The File comes from the Attorney General's Deparment, and has been digitized, but I do not know if it can be accessed via their website here.

http://www.naa.gov.au/

I don't have the Item number and Title with me at the moment, but will post them up here in the next few days.

I will post the list of names of "Greeks and Yugoslavs" in the government file from 1925. By looking at them you would think they are Greeks and Serbians, except for some clear give aways that only a Macedonian would spot, such as "Naum Kostopoulos". For the rest it is thanks to some closer investigative work by the Australian officer that we learn they are Macedonians.

As an afterthought it also says alot about the Greek Community of Melbourne at that time who rejected them, and the official spokesperson Mr. Economides, who must have known to speak the Macedonian language.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by Risto the Great

Merely highlights how ignorant these people are.

Notwithstanding this, it is nice to know the Government of Australia has been well aware of the "fake" Greeks for about 85 years now.

I don't like that term (as your probably aware by now) but I have to overlook the fact that it has been used here, because it gives us an insight into who they were. By saying they are more Slavic than Greek, it is certain we are dealing with Macedonian-speakers here.

[George S.]

It's not easy to search for macedonian things in the archives.I tried to search for Macedonian things in the archives there's nothing.You have to know how to search & dig up stuff & it's not easy.If there is anything from yugoslavia you have to deduce from the name & surname that its macedonian.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by Pelister

As an afterthought it also says alot about the Greek Community of Melbourne at that time who rejected them....

I noticed this too. Now they try to hug them to death. It's pathetic, but even in such a source that obviously still has uncleared smoke, the real picture cannot be denied. What they are talking about are Macedonians, our ancestors, in 1925, which is prior to our recognized statehood, so the reference to 'Greeks' and 'Serbs' shouldn't be too suprising. What is important is the obviously notable differences, which were picked up by both Australians and Greeks at the time.

Macedonians in Australia from 1925!! That in itself is a solid find. Again, well done.

[Pelister]

I'll post the file name and number so that anyone can view it on the website.

The Australian government has always known about the Macedonians in Australia, who they are.

It is only due to the brazen and illogical protests of new Greeks that have prevented our recognition by this government.