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Old 09-13-2009, 11:13 PM   #41
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Ummm, lots of Albanians around Athens .... .
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:39 AM   #42
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Edmond About is an interesting source. He spent some time in Athens' French school after his college carrer, before returning to France in 1853, where he wrote his book on Greece, La Grèce contemporaine a couple of years later. The below quote is revealing:
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....Athens, twenty-five years ago, was only an Albanian village. The Albanians formed, and still form, almost the whole of the population of Attica; and within three leagues of the capital, villages are to be found where Greek is hardly understood. Athens has been rapidly peopled with men of all kinds and nations: that explains the ugliness of the Athenian type.
Here is the key points of the above text:

1) At approximately the year 1830 (coinciding with the period where independence was first established), Athens was only an Albanian village.

2) Since then, until the time of About's writing during the year 1855, Athens has been rapidly peopled with men of all kinds and nations.

3) Albanians formed, and still form, almost the whole of the population of Attica.

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This appears to indicate that prior to the 'men of all kinds and nations' moving into Athens, the region was basically Albanian. And to a large degree it still was, well after the 'men of all kinds and nations'.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:02 AM   #43
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Map Courtesy of the book History of the Balkan Peninsula by Ferdinand Schevill (1922).

Note that even if we accept this map as a primer for how it was in the Balkan Peninsula and that there were ethnic "greeks" in Macedonia then their numbers are simply irrelevant. And two important races are missing in this equation. The Vlachs and the Jews. And obviously we don't need to elaborate on how much of the population was actually hellenized. The last four pages on this topic give a good detail on that.

My apologies if the map is shabby. Anyone out there with a clearer version please post it up.
Here is a larger version of it, will this do?



I do see Albanians surrounding Athens and I see Vlachs(they are termed as Rumanians according to the legend) in the Pindus also a MAJORITY of Slavs in Macedonia.

Macedonia was never Greek not even in 1922.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:49 PM   #44
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Daskale thank you for this much clearer map. One can see that if we do go by this map that the imposter hellenes still amount to a very small percentage in Macedonia.
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When looking at Macedonia you really do see that it has been Greek for the last 4000 years......

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Very few Albanians in Macedonia. Very few.
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:23 PM   #47
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I'm not sure if any of you noticed this on the map so I circled it in red for all to see;



Isn't it strange that Halkidiki has one little spot for Slavs and no where else. Makes you wonder how long it took to hellenize the rest of the Macedonians and Vlachs in Halkidiki. And I know that todays modern "greek" nationalist will claim that no "Slavs" ever lived there.
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I want to bring everyone's attention to this map;



Migrations and invasions in greece and adjacent areas by NGL Hammond.
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Migrations and invasions in greece and adjacent areas by NGL Hammond.
Yeah right, that one is photoshoped...... Albanians in Greece......
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http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/8361/2/

Vecer: 2002 Macedonian census was Forged
Thursday, 24 September 2009

Vladimir Golubovski of VMRO-NP and Janko Bachev claim to have evidence that confirms prominent government officials in 2002 had influenced those who created the census questionnaires. For this purpose a suit was filed to the Republic’s Public Prosecutor Ljupco Shvrgovski.


According to them, this was done to show that Albanians constituted 25.17 percent of the population in order to justify the Framework Agreement which was based on a minority constituting more than 20%.

The census of 2002 was forged, and the percentage of ethnic Albanians in Macedonia is about 17 percent, not 25.17 as shown seven years ago.


This claim was presented before the Public Prosecutor Ljupco Shvrgovski yesterday by the leaders of VMRO-NP and the People's Movement for Macedonia, Vladimir Golubovski and Janko Bachev.

Both have filed criminal charges and argue that at the time of implementation of the census immense pressure was carried against individuals who worked on the final reports.
Golubovski and Bachev require immediate cancellation of the imposed Framework Agreement, which, as they say, the Albanians won, and Macedonians lost everything.

- The Albanian minority by means of force, weapons and foreign mentors imposed on us to accept their demands as acquired rights, rights achieved with the Framework Agreement and not the rights of all citizens, such as birth rights. So in a situation where we know that the outcome of the census was falsified, and in a situation where this ethnic community continues aggressively with new demands that are disclosed as steps towards federalization, Macedonia simply must verify the result.

Moreover, it is well known that the ethnic Albanians were 16 percent, are now even less as their numbers will continue to decrease according to all statistics. We are witnessing as the Albanians realize their numbers are smaller and faced with a new census, they are becoming increasingly aggressive, says Golubovski.

Bachev meanwhile said there were numerous documents showing high ranking government officials involved in falsification of the 2002 census.
- In the process of gathering all the evidence, it’s been shocking for us to look at the level to which this falsification took place. The crime in the last census is just staggering. The parties involved, the technology behind it, the falsifications made by the field workers, the way the information was entered into the computer systems… all of this is falsified – stated Bachev.


Meanwhile the ethnic Albanians continue to torment the majority Macedonians and the rest of the ethnic minorities.
Ethnic Albanian politicians are not liable for any of their statements even the public ones against the Republic. The government is silent to their threats, even silent when a Parliament party leader goes to lobby Albania to prevent Macedonia from entering NATO. No ethnic Albanian politician who have threatened the country with terrorism acts has been prosecuted.

Albanian students who can’t pass high school exams (like the rest of the students) are given free pass to the most prestigious medical school with their only qualification is being ‘Albanian’.

For how long will the Government, the majority Macedonians and the other ethnic communities tolerate this kind of aggressive behavior, threats and unscrupulous demands by the ethnic Albanian politicians and their community remains to be seen.
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