Mike Ilitch/Ilievski

Mactruth · 03-08-2011, 08:57 PM

I wanted to know what has Mike Ilitch, one of the most successful Macedonians in North America, done for Macedonians in the Republic and for Macedonia in general?

I never hear of him helping create business and growth in Macedonia or donating needed materials to Macedonia. I also wonder why he changed his last name from "ski" (Macedonian) to "ch" (Serb). He also had his photo on the MPO website, does he have pro-Bulgarian tendencies?

osiris · 03-08-2011, 10:11 PM

What makes you think his real name would br ilievski
Illich was the name given to his family by the Serbs during royalist Yugoslavia and was most likely based on a grandfathers name Ilo
Most modern Macedonian names are relatively new and rarely based on the original family names
Also ski is not the only Macedonian ending it maybe the most common today but it wasn't always the case

Mygdon · 03-08-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by osiris

Most modern Macedonian names are relatively new and rarely based on the original family names Also ski is not the only Macedonian ending it maybe the most common today but it wasn't always the case

that is something that bugs me a lot.

Niko777 · 03-08-2011, 10:36 PM

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Also ski is not the only Macedonian ending it maybe the most common today but it wasn't always the case

I agree -ski was very rare in the old days but it became the standard after WWII. Like the Greeks, Serbs also changed Macedonian names. Anyway I believe Mike Ilitch was born in the USA so he probably forgot his ties with Macedonia or doesn't care.

Niko777 · 03-08-2011, 10:46 PM

Like I mentioned in another thread, there are tens of thousands of Macedonian immigrants who were born in Macedonia and have become successful entrepreneurs in diaspora countries, and yet they are not doing anything to help Macedonia economically or create business. So why should Mike Ilitch, an American born entrepreneur, feel obligated to create business in Macedonia?

Soldier of Macedon · 03-08-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by artemi

that is something that bugs me a lot.

Why and how does it bug you?

Prolet · 03-08-2011, 11:34 PM

There are Macedonians in Albania who have Albanian names yet they are Macedonians, like one of the Mayor Candidates in the Golo Brdo region Edmond Osmani.

Artemi, Im not sure what you mean either.

osiris · 03-09-2011, 03:31 AM

I asked around and it seems the family name was shuntov. But like everyone else their official name thanks to Serbian kingdom was derived from a male ancestor in this case mikes grandfather Ilo. His father emigrated to the USA as Sotir Ilich.

Ljubanec · 03-09-2011, 10:41 AM

In many interviews I have read, Mike Illitch has claimed he was nothing but Macedonian. I don't know if he has given to any causes or has invested in businesses in Macedonia. As for his name, some of you on this forum have names given to you from the proud Hellenic Republic. That fact does not make you any less Macedonian, so I don't understand why it should be an issue.

I also don't blame him for not contributing to Macedonian causes. Business in Macedonia is corrupt. Macedonian organizations and politicians in Macedonia are corrupt.

Until that traitor Gruevski gets out of office we should (all TRUE PATRIOTIC MACEDONIANS) boycott Macedonia.

Lügendetektor · 03-09-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by osiris

What makes you think his real name would br ilievski
Illich was the name given to his family by the Serbs during royalist Yugoslavia and was most likely based on a grandfathers name Ilo
Most modern Macedonian names are relatively new and rarely based on the original family names
Also ski is not the only Macedonian ending it maybe the most common today but it wasn't always the case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ilitch

Michael "Mike" Ilitch Sr. (born Michael Ilievski, July 20, 1929)[2][3][4

2^ Drew Sharp Thrilled by Wings, Mike Ilitch hopes to help pennant push next Detroit Free press, 2009
3^ Biographical sketch of Mike Ilitch Associated Press Archive, December 18, 2005
4^ Mike Ilitch U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame

03-08-2011, 08:57 PM	#1
Mactruth Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 91	Mike Ilitch/Ilievski I wanted to know what has Mike Ilitch, one of the most successful Macedonians in North America, done for Macedonians in the Republic and for Macedonia in general? I never hear of him helping create business and growth in Macedonia or donating needed materials to Macedonia. I also wonder why he changed his last name from "ski" (Macedonian) to "ch" (Serb). He also had his photo on the MPO website, does he have pro-Bulgarian tendencies?

03-08-2011, 10:11 PM	#2
osiris Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,969	What makes you think his real name would br ilievski Illich was the name given to his family by the Serbs during royalist Yugoslavia and was most likely based on a grandfathers name Ilo Most modern Macedonian names are relatively new and rarely based on the original family names Also ski is not the only Macedonian ending it maybe the most common today but it wasn't always the case Last edited by osiris; 03-08-2011 at 10:17 PM.

03-08-2011, 11:34 PM	#7
Prolet Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,241	There are Macedonians in Albania who have Albanian names yet they are Macedonians, like one of the Mayor Candidates in the Golo Brdo region Edmond Osmani. Artemi, Im not sure what you mean either. __________________ МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

03-08-2011, 10:46 PM	#5
Niko777 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,895	Like I mentioned in another thread, there are tens of thousands of Macedonian immigrants who were born in Macedonia and have become successful entrepreneurs in diaspora countries, and yet they are not doing anything to help Macedonia economically or create business. So why should Mike Ilitch, an American born entrepreneur, feel obligated to create business in Macedonia?

03-09-2011, 03:31 AM	#8
osiris Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,969	I asked around and it seems the family name was shuntov. But like everyone else their official name thanks to Serbian kingdom was derived from a male ancestor in this case mikes grandfather Ilo. His father emigrated to the USA as Sotir Ilich.

03-09-2011, 10:41 AM	#9
Ljubanec Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 125	In many interviews I have read, Mike Illitch has claimed he was nothing but Macedonian. I don't know if he has given to any causes or has invested in businesses in Macedonia. As for his name, some of you on this forum have names given to you from the proud Hellenic Republic. That fact does not make you any less Macedonian, so I don't understand why it should be an issue. I also don't blame him for not contributing to Macedonian causes. Business in Macedonia is corrupt. Macedonian organizations and politicians in Macedonia are corrupt. Until that traitor Gruevski gets out of office we should (all TRUE PATRIOTIC MACEDONIANS) boycott Macedonia.

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