The book that should not exist, Macedonian-Greek lexicon from 1907!

[thessalo-niki]

Originally Posted by Toska

what i find amazing is that he claims macedonian has 4000 greek loan words but 100 years before this lexicon was written greek was barely spoken in greece, what does this exactly mean.

It means you have no idea what you're talkin' about.
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Bratot]

YouTube - Macedonian-Greek lexicon from 1907

I thought it was already posted before?

[Toska]

Originally Posted by thessalo-niki

It means you have no idea what you're talkin' about.

solun did i hit a nerve, it is well documented that the greek language was resurrected in 1830s, that greek was not spoken in greece, epirus was albanian, thessaly was vlach, athens was albanian/turkish, peloponnese was albanian riduled with macedonian toponyms and "northern greece" lets not go there,

[Serdarot]

Originally Posted by thessalo-niki

Petrakou is the genitive case of Petrakos. It says "From the prinetry of P.A. Petrakos".

so, Petrakos´s printery?

or, if we change "Petrakos" with John, it´s John´s printery...

or if we change it with Alexandro, it´s AlexandroY , Alexandro´s money?

to make it easier for you:

FillipoY = Fillip´s money, did i got it right?

That small phrase is typical for archaic language and mentality of scholars 100 years ago: "How to say a simple thing, in the most perplexed way using the most unknown, impressive and enigmatic words"

Like our "journalists" and "reporters". They use words that even they don´t understand correctly, no metter we have our own perfect words to express the thoughts...

[thessalo-niki]

Originally Posted by Toska

solun did i hit a nerve, it is well documented that the greek language was resurrected in 1830s, that greek was not spoken in greece, epirus was albanian, thessaly was vlach, athens was albanian/turkish, peloponnese was albanian riduled with macedonian toponyms and "northern greece" lets not go there,

No, actually it was someone else's fault. Here's an introduction to our non-existance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language
and the documents (notice the dates)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_literature
(compared to these documents)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_literature
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Toska]

why is it from every greek in the modern greek era, which started in 1453 mind you, that every single greek i clicked on, was born post 1850s and if they were born pre 1850 they were not born in greece but in western europe, this again supports my arguement.

[thessalo-niki]

Originally Posted by Toska

why is it from every greek in the modern greek era, which started in 1453 mind you, that every single greek i clicked on, was born post 1850s and if they were born pre 1850 they were not born in greece but in western europe, this again supports my arguement.

You're saying most (notable) Greeks of Ottoman period (1453-1821) were born in Western Europe? Like who?
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Soldier of Macedon]

Originally Posted by thessalo-niki

You're saying most (notable) Greeks of Ottoman period (1453-1821) were born in Western Europe? Like who?

Which notable Greeks during this period were born in the borders of 1821 Greece? How many Vlachs and Albanians counted as 'Greeks'?

[thessalo-niki]

Originally Posted by Soldier of Macedon

Which notable Greeks during this period were born in the borders of 1821 Greece? How many Vlachs and Albanians counted as 'Greeks'?

That's an interesting question, but should I bother to make a list? Does it really matter on who was born in Peloponnisos and Roumeli (the area of the first Greek State at late 1830s)? These were among the most insignificant, poor and mountainous areas populated by Greeks. That was actually, one of the reasons why revolution started there. It was the most remote part of Ottoman Empire. The biggest city was probably Tripoli/Tripolitsa, I doubt there was even a printery in it.
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Bratot]

Yes, it does really matter, when you call on some Grekness that never existed.