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Some of you may be aware that I am not only Macedonian, but I am also Irish. As such, I got quite the shock when I discovered the famous quote by Roger Casement; 'I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented'. Apparently spoken before being hung by the British for his role in the Easter Rising of 1916. This is something that obviously gets-to-me in a very personal way and I am looking for clarification of its authenticity. If anyone has any evidence of this being said, please provide it!
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I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented. -
Its true, he said that. Try and search the forum, I'm certain I've seen a source here somewhere.
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Problem with searching the forum is that the search bar doesn't workOriginally posted by Gocka View PostI know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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From the book “Macedonia and Greece: The Struggle to Define a New Balkan Nation” by John Shea, 1997, page 8.Comment
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That's how I found out about the quote, I started reading the book last night but John Shea doesn't state where he got that information from.Originally posted by Gocka View PostI know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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There's also this...
"...The moral failure of Turkey, her inability to govern her Christian peoples is only the pretext: but just as the moral argument brings its strange revenges and shows an Ireland that has suffered all that Macedonia has suffered, and this at the hands of Christians, and not of Moslems, so the triumph of the Balkan Allies, far from benefiting Britain, must, in the end, react to her detriment..."
The Crime Against Europe - A Possible Outcome of the War of 1914
Roger Casement
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Unfortunately I have found nothing.I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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The earliest reference to that quote I can find on the internet comes from "Macedonian Review: Volume 16-17" published in 1986 by "Kulturen Zhivot". The quote is on page 252 in that book, and offers a citation (citation 56) but I don't have access to the citations page.
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Mozok si.
Well Liberator, I think you have a good place to start.
Originally posted by vicsinad View PostComment
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Haha I wonder what my chances of finding an English-language copy of that is.I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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It will be a good opportunity to learn to read Macedonian
its not that hard to learn honestly.
Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View PostComment
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I've been studying it for a while but it's nowhere near good enough to read a book on something as complex as history and cultureOriginally posted by Gocka View PostIt will be a good opportunity to learn to read Macedonian its not that hard to learn honestly.I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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Originally posted by Gocka View PostIt will be a good opportunity to learn to read Macedonian its not that hard to learn honestly.
No need for him to learn Macedonian...the book is in English!
But learn Macedonian...and Irish
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Irish has little practical value in this modern world. It's use in Ireland itself is very limited.Originally posted by vicsinad View PostNo need for him to learn Macedonian...the book is in English!
But learn Macedonian...and IrishI know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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