Unique Macedonian Words (List)

**Toska** · 12-21-2016, 06:07 AM

alot of those words are greek,turkish or have slightly different accents in other slavic languages thats why you cant translate them

example cakmak is turkish,stylo is greek and cupe is pronounced in serbo/croatian as cupa.

**TheNikoWhiteIch** · 12-21-2016, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Toska View Post

alot of those words are greek,turkish or have slightly different accents in other slavic languages thats why you cant translate them

example cakmak is turkish,stylo is greek and cupe is pronounced in serbo/croatian as cupa.

Interesting, I did not know that Greek also had стило for "pen"; I always thought the word was French actually. I will also remove чупе since it's nearly the same as the Serbo-Croatian word. Also, P.M. me with further comments please, I'm trying to keep this thread short

**vicsinad** · 12-21-2016, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by TheNikoWhiteIch View Post

Interesting, I did not know that Greek also had стило for "pen"; I always thought the word was French actually. I will also remove чупе since it's nearly the same as the Serbo-Croatian word. Also, P.M. me with further comments please, I'm trying to keep this thread short

Niko, good idea for a thread. I know you said that you wanted to keep it to one post, so sorry. Mods can delete mine after!

I just wanted to know if there's a source for cupa in Serbo-Croat? Is it standard or a dialect? And from where

**Toska** · 12-22-2016, 12:21 AM

no it wouldnt be standard probably just a dialect word, possibly a loan word from us, id guess Torlak Dialect of Nis.

**Liberator of Makedonija** · 10-25-2017, 06:28 PM

Стило is probably of Latin origin. Also whilst there may be no direction translations into Serbo-Croat or Bulgarian there may be localised translations, e.g. Ќ is exclusive to Macedonian and as such its equivalents are Ћ and Щ in Serbian/Montenegrin and Bulgarian respectively. Sometimes words between our languages may only differ by one phoneme because they are not present in the surrounding languages. The same logic applies to Ѓ which is also exclusive to Macedonian and its Serbo-Croat and Bulgarian equivalents are Ђ and ЖД (diagraph) respectively. This can be expressed with the word for birth which in Macedonian is раѓање and is рађање and раждане in Serbian/Montenegrin and Bulgarian respectively.

**Carlin** · 01-17-2018, 12:02 AM

I found the following interesting. It has more to do with grammar than lexicon / words.

**Karposh** · 03-31-2018, 02:14 AM

Carlin, with all due respect, I doubt very much that a couple of hundred years of Vlach settlement in Macedonia has influenced the Bitola-Lerin and Voden dialects to the point that it has introduced certain grammatical nuances into these dialects such as the dative case mu. Although it is true, as indicated in the thesis' example that most people in Bitola don't bother with the dative cases i and im and simply use mu in all instances, to suggest that this is the result of �Aromanian being intensely spoken in the area� is a bit far-fetched, at best. Admittedly, the thesis doesn't make conclusions but is merely proposing a theory that is �the most likely source� for this very Bitola-like nuance in their dialect, however, I would argue that it is just a coincidence and nothing more.

The Vlach presence in the Bitola region has been around since the 1820's and mainly concentrated on the slopes of Mt. Pelister in the hugely populated villages of Magarevo, Trnovo, Malovishte, Nizhepole and Gopesh. Outside of Bitola other large concentrations of Vlachs included Krushevo (which, prior to 1830, was exclusively Macedonian), and the surrounding mountainous regions of western and southern parts of Aegean Macedonia. Most of the inhabitants of these Vlach villages in Macedonia can trace their roots back to villages and towns in southern Albania, Mt. Gramos, Epirus and Thessaly and were a direct result of constant Muslim-Albanian raids on their original homelands.

Prior to the destruction of Moskopole by Ali Pasha from Janina in 1788, which forced the Vlachs to seek a home elsewhere, and establish permanent settlements in certain mountainous regions of Macedonia, their presence in Macedonia was more transshumant and nomadic in nature, moving as they did with their livestock from one fixed place to another with the changing seasons � higher pastures in summer and lower pastures in winter.

**Liberator of Makedonija** · 01-29-2021, 05:07 AM

The gendered dative cases are also not present in the Kostur dialect

**Rogi** · 02-15-2021, 04:27 AM

Do any of you use, or are familiar with, the word "чучи" as in to sit/squat? Is this word used in a similar way/context in any of the neighbouring areas?

Find ourselves using it all the time with the kids but just paused to think about it and was curious about its' etymology

**Karposh** · 02-15-2021, 06:51 AM

Hi Rogi, I've only ever heard the word being used in the diminutive sense, i.e. a cute way that grown-ups use to tell small kids to sit down eg. "chuchni tuka" instead of "sedni tuka". My Macedonian dictionary has: to kneel; to crouch down; to squat. I also have a very old Serbian dictionary and they have the word too (chuchati) and it means the same thing.

Unique Macedonian Words (List)

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