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TrueMacedonian 09-22-2010 08:09 AM

Nice post Bill. I remember seeing a post like that on here just don't remember the topic.

Here's some more about our Bulgar friends and the fantasies their forefathers invented;

[QUOTE]In 1867 the Society (Society for Bulgarian Literature) sponsored the foundation of the St. Cyril and Methodius School, the most important of all Bulgarian schools. It was named after the brothers Cyril and Methodius, the two monks responsible for inventing the Cyrillic alphabet, [B]whom Bulgarian nationalists declared to be Bulgarian nationals.[/B] [/QUOTE]

Nationalism, globalization, and orthodoxy, Victor Roudometof page 134.

Bratot 09-22-2010 08:15 AM

[QUOTE=Bill77;71659]Onur i have something i picked up and saved from one of the threads here on MTO. Not sure who posted it though. here it is.





and this,




This place shits all over Wiki :)[/QUOTE]


You can find all of this in "Fields of wheat, hills of blood: passages to nationhood in Greek Macedonia" by Anastasia N. Karakasidou

here:
[url]http://books.google.pl/books?id=vGQ2enTZWO4C&pg=PA83&lpg=PA83&dq=American+missionaries+working+in+Bulgaria+in+the+1850s+created+the+first+standardized+Bulgarian+script&source=bl&ots=hXl9o1dm_F&sig=dPv06U2Oka38O-HFaAtYCDR0Hco&hl=pl&ei=UAOaTMjnHJOx4QbPlsVY&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=American%20missionaries%20working%20in%20Bulgaria%20in%20the%201850s%20created%20the%20first%20standardized%20Bulgarian%20script&f=false[/url]

TrueMacedonian 09-22-2010 08:19 AM

Here's something on Robert college in Istanbul and how the Bulgarians praise this school - [url]http://books.google.com/books?id=2dKQ7udN7woC&pg=PA173&dq=Robert+college+bulgarians&hl=en&ei=wPqZTMHZMYH78AaJpuy4AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=bulgarians&f=false[/url]

TrueMacedonian 09-30-2010 11:57 AM

This made me fall off my seat. The Bulgars are now making claims to ancient traditions :lol:

[url]http://bces.conference.tripod.com/id8.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Bulgaria is especially proud of its rich folklore traditions. Folk dances, music, national costumes and traditional rituals have an important place in the life of Bulgarians. Every town and village celebrates Christian holidays and folk festivities in its own special way. [B]Bulgarian wine tradition dates back to the era of the Thrace and has been honored since the times of Homer.[/B] [/QUOTE]

TrueMacedonian 09-30-2010 12:10 PM

This is for all you ufologists out there in Bulgaria :alien:

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1231151/Aliens-Theyre-living-claim-Bulgarian-government-scientists.html[/url]

[B]Aliens? They're already living among us, claim Bulgarian government scientists[/B]

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 3:54 PM on 26th November 2009

Aliens are already among us on Earth, say Bulgarian government scientists who claim they are in contact with them.
Researchers for the country's Space Research Institute said they are currently working on deciphering a complex set of symbols sent to them.
They claim the aliens are in the process of answering 30 questions posed to them by the Bulgarians.

Lachezar Filipov, deputy director of the Space Research Institute of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences, confirmed the research was under way.
In all, his team are analysing 150 crop circles from around the world which they believe answer questions beamed into outer space.

Mr Filipov said: 'Aliens are currently all around us, and are watching us all the time.
'They are not hostile towards us, rather, they want to help us but we have not grown enough in order to establish direct contact with them.'
Mr Filipov added that even the seat of the Catholic church, the Vatican, had agreed that aliens existed.
In his words, the humans are not going to be able to establish contact with the extraterrestrials through radio waves but through the power of thought.
He told the novinite newspaper: 'The human race was certainly going to have direct contact with the aliens in the next 10 to 15 years.

'Extraterrestrials are critical of the people's amoral behavior referring to the humans' interference in nature's processes.'

Filipov's team is reported to be analysing crop circles which appeared around the globe in the past year.
The publication of the BAS researchers report concerning communicating with aliens comes in the midst of a controversy over the role, feasibility, and reform of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
Last week it lead to a heated debate between Bulgaria's Finance Minister, Simeon Djankov, and President Georgi Parvanov.



:rolleyes1:

Soldier of Macedon 09-30-2010 07:22 PM

[QUOTE="Bill77"][QUOTE=Onur;71648]I read in several sources that after 1878, when Russians took control of Bulgaria, they literally changed everything in Bulgaria, including their language, education system and even their historical concept. I even heard that their history and archival documents has been rewritten.

Anyone knows any article or a document of what kind of things changes occurred in Bulgaria after they "liberated"!?[/QUOTE]Onur i have something i picked up and saved from one of the threads here on MTO. Not sure who posted it though. here it is.


[QUOTE] "American missionaries working in Bulgaria in the 1850s created the first standardized Bulgarian script, choosing to base the national language on the dialect of Thrace and eastern Macedonia rather than on that spoken in the regions of northern Bulgaria. Until the work of such American missionaries, memories of an ecclesiastical past in Bulgaria had been preserved in large part only by Slavonic monks. The American Board of Missionaries, with their network of locally posted missionaries, intentionally or not assisted nascent Bulgarian national elites to forge a different picture of the past.

Dr. Elias Riggs, for example, crossed "European Turkey" in the late 1840s and in 1847 compiled a Bulgarian grammar primer. According to Tsanoff (1919:ix), it had been the American missionaries who had discovered (or, we might say, helped to invent) the Bulgarian nation. They published some of the first books in Bulgarian, and in 1864 began putting out the first monthly magazine in the region written in Bulgarian." [/QUOTE]


and this,


[QUOTE] Macedonian shares peculiar relationships with a number of Slavic languages, with Bulgarian and Serbian being closest. It is logical to consider that significant parts of the languages and dialects, to a degree, will be very similar and therefore mutually intelligible. The definitive suffix that is unique to Macedonian and Bulgarian indicates a certain commonality (at least for a period of time) that has not been shared with Serbian, which can give Bulgarian a more Macedonian 'sound' than Serbian can.
Quote:

The American Missionaries printed a dictionary using a Macedonian dialect and called it "Bulgarian" which was eventually chosen to be the national language of modern Bulgaria.
The missionaries used an eastern Macedonian dialect if I recall correctly, because it was in between Macedonia and Bulgaria and "could" serve as a compromise medium that would be generally understood by most, I am not 100% certain, but they way I remember it, Bulgarians eventually rejected this dialect, as they did with the attempted literary 'language' used by the Miladinov brothers, which is essentially Macedonian in any case. When Bulgaria was created by Russia, the dialects of the north-east of Moesia were used to form the core of the new Bulgarian literary language, a far distance from the capital established by the Russians in Sofia, which is near Macedonia. So, in the haste of birth, Bulgaria's capital was on one side of the new entity and the official language was on the other.

Furthermore, even today, literary Macedonian and Macedonian dialects in general are still closer to the Bogatsko dialect of the 16th century than they are to the Bulgarian literary [/QUOTE]

This place shits all over Wiki :)[/QUOTE]
Hey, that's my writing, post #55 on the below link:

[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=45820&highlight=compromise+medium%2C+Macedonian#post45820[/url]


And yes, I could bury every single wiki article on Macedonia and Macedonians.

Bill77 10-01-2010 04:08 AM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;72876]Hey, that's my writing, post #55 on the below link:

[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=45820&highlight=compromise+medium%2C+Macedonian#post45820[/url]


And yes, I could bury every single wiki article on Macedonia and Macedonians.[/QUOTE]:thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:
I was 99.9% sure it would have been you mate. Love your work.

TrueMacedonian 10-01-2010 01:32 PM

Pulevski on the Bulgarian propaganda in Macedonia, 1879!

June 8, 1879

Georgi Pulevski to Despot Badzovic

[B]…The Bulgarians here are playing tricks with us and are turning the water to their mill alongside divine Nathaniel, who is a Macedonian, but rather inclined towards the Bulgarians…[/B]

Arhiv Srbije (Beograd) Fond: Ministarstvo prosvete, P. nbr. 981/8.VI.1879; Razgledi XIV/10 (1972), p. 1132.
(from makedonika.com)

Soldier of Macedon 10-02-2010 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=TrueMacedonian;72951]Pulevski on the Bulgarian propaganda in Macedonia, 1879!

June 8, 1879

Georgi Pulevski to Despot Badzovic

[B]…The Bulgarians here are playing tricks with us and are turning the water to their mill alongside divine Nathaniel, who is a Macedonian, but rather inclined towards the Bulgarians…[/B]

Arhiv Srbije (Beograd) Fond: Ministarstvo prosvete, P. nbr. 981/8.VI.1879; Razgledi XIV/10 (1972), p. 1132.
(from makedonika.com)[/QUOTE]
Here is the whole letter and some more from a book that I have about Pulevski:

[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1325&highlight=pulevski[/url]

TrueMacedonian 10-09-2010 07:18 PM

Something SoM posted in another topic;

[QUOTE]In present-day Bulgaria, the image of Hilandarski adorns two-Leva banknotes, presenting him as the man who envisioned the modern Bulgarian nation-state, while that of Rigas Velestinlis-Pheraios figures on ten cent Greek Euro coins. [B]At the time, such recognition would have seemed absurd.[/B][/QUOTE]

"A brief history of the late Ottoman Empire", by M. Sukru Hanioglu page 26


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