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Carlin 12-23-2020 10:46 PM

4 December 1975 -The Times (UK)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/uDhvCqB.jpg[/img]

URL:
[url]https://twitter.com/UZI9mmmm/status/1341537718518476801/photo/1[/url]

Carlin 12-29-2020 12:24 PM

[img]https://i.imgur.com/3wMILok.jpg[/img]

URL:
[url]https://twitter.com/Goce_Macedonian/status/1308655147715715073/photo/1[/url]

The Bulgarian Nikola Kuchukov published in 1900, in Bulgaria, autobiographical notes on his participation in the Herzegovinian uprising of 1875.

Page 21: "... 280 people of different nationalities: Montenegrins, Croats, Bosniaks, Germans, Serbs, MACEDONIANS and 15-16 Bulgarians ..."

Carlin 12-29-2020 12:54 PM

1913 London Daily Telegraph, UK, story in an Australian newspaper

Rival Claims in Macedonia.

"The Macedonian Slavs, strictly speaking, are neither Servians nor Bulgarians. Ethnically, and by their language they stand midway between them, being, however, by their dialect, their traditions, customs and folklore, nearer to the Servian than to the Bulgarians."

[url]https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/137627019?searchTerm=Macedonia%20boer[/url]

[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/UZI9mmmm/status/1343953188861353984[/url]

Carlin 01-24-2021 11:04 PM

Two Macedonians ... who became Bulgarians:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCRc3RZWCkc[/url]

Carlin 02-08-2021 08:53 PM

"A century previously, the very concept of ‘Bulgarian’ was practically unheard of...In the 19th century, then, this amorphous group was constituted into a Bulgarian nation."

-Becoming Bulgarian: the articulation of Bulgarian identity in the 19th century - Sampimon, J.

Carlin 03-25-2021 02:53 PM

THE BULGARIAN HORRORS: CULTURE AND THE INTERNATIONAL HISTORY OF THE GREAT EASTERN CRISIS, 1876-1878 by Cameron Ean Alfred Whitehead

THE UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA (Vancouver)
April 2014

Bulgarian identity still hadn't established itself fully even by the 1870s. Rumelian Christians didn't identify as Bulgar & opposed the Bulgar April Uprising against the Turks.




PS, URL:
[url]https://www.expres.mk/ifimes-bugarija-e-grdoto-lice-na-eu-a-bugarite-nasila-bugarizirani-bogomili-makedonci-i-turci/[/url]

Liberator of Makedonija 03-28-2021 05:10 AM

[QUOTE=Carlin15;184605]THE BULGARIAN HORRORS: CULTURE AND THE INTERNATIONAL HISTORY OF THE GREAT EASTERN CRISIS, 1876-1878 by Cameron Ean Alfred Whitehead

THE UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA (Vancouver)
April 2014

Bulgarian identity still hadn't established itself fully even by the 1870s. Rumelian Christians didn't identify as Bulgar & opposed the Bulgar April Uprising against the Turks.




PS, URL:
[url]https://www.expres.mk/ifimes-bugarija-e-grdoto-lice-na-eu-a-bugarite-nasila-bugarizirani-bogomili-makedonci-i-turci/[/url][/QUOTE]

I read an essay by a Bulgarian academic few years back that also claimed the general population in what became Bulgaria opposed the April Uprising as well, or were at least indifferent to it. The essay was in a compilation book, it may have been [I]On the Macedonians' Matters[/I]

Momce Makedonce 05-22-2021 08:39 AM

Found this video on Youtube quite interesting, a native Bulgarian speaker trying to understand various Macedonian phrases. She doesn't do too well, even though the Bulgarians claim both languages to be identical!

Admittedly not sure where this girl is from in Bulgaria, as that could obviously make a difference with how similar her dialect is to Macedonian.

I haven't ever come across any Bulgarians so have never been put in a situation where I have to try and understand them, from the little I have been exposed to it can understand bits and pieces. Definitely not the same though and I think it would be difficult to hold a conversation and properly interact.

Have a watch of the video here.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFpQSoZT0KA[/url]

Spirit 05-22-2021 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Momce Makedonce;184748]Found this video on Youtube quite interesting, a native Bulgarian speaker trying to understand various Macedonian phrases. She doesn't do too well, even though the Bulgarians claim both languages to be identical!

Admittedly not sure where this girl is from in Bulgaria, as that could obviously make a difference with how similar her dialect is to Macedonian.

I haven't ever come across any Bulgarians so have never been put in a situation where I have to try and understand them, from the little I have been exposed to it can understand bits and pieces. Definitely not the same though and I think it would be difficult to hold a conversation and properly interact.

Have a watch of the video here.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFpQSoZT0KA[/url][/QUOTE]

When I was in Macedonia in 2012 my cousins took me to Dorjan. I went for a walk by myself and came across a takeaway shop selling roast chickens. The owner started to speak to me and I had real difficulty in understanding him, I could grasp a couple of the sentences he was saying but it was basically incomprehensible to me to the point he gave up speaking to me. When I got back to where my cousins were I told them what had transpired. They explained to me that in the far eastern parts of Macedonia closest to the Bulgarian border the Macedonians speak with a heavy Bulgarian inflection.
Likewise with Serbian, I can get some of the meaning but it has to be spoken really slowly to me for me to get the gist of it.

Soldier of Macedon 05-23-2021 04:46 AM

[QUOTE=Spirit;184749]They explained to me that in the far eastern parts of Macedonia closest to the Bulgarian border the Macedonians speak with a heavy Bulgarian inflection.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't refer to it as a "Bulgarian" inflection. Some features common to both eastern Macedonia and Bulgaria exist because of the dialect continuum in the Balkans. The Macedonian literary language is based on the western dialects so it can take a little effort to adjust when communicating with speakers of eastern dialects. This isn't unusual, for example, the native dialect of Zagreb bears more affinity with Slovenian than it does with standard Croatian.


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