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Napoleon 01-13-2011 11:42 AM

The Qeleshe...the 'traditional' Albanian hat
 
[IMG]http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,948727,00.jpg[/IMG]

Above is an example of a 'Qeleshe', also referred as being a 'traditional' Albanian hat. Wikipedia and other dubious sources even go as far as stating the the Qeleshe originates from the ancient Illyrians. But...somebody forgot to tell all these propagandists that the Qeleshe is also a traditional hat of the various peoples of the Caucaus mountain region. Below is a picture of a typical Khalaj Turk peasant from northern Iran.

[IMG]http://i30.tinypic.com/m7w2og.jpg[/IMG]

Soldier of Macedon 01-13-2011 05:40 PM

Well, well, well.......

Soldier of Macedon 01-13-2011 06:08 PM

The word 'qeleshe' in Albanian is pronounced 'cheleshe' - very similar to the Macedonian (and Slavic) word for 'forehead', which is 'chelo'. The Albanian word for 'forehead' is 'balle'. Makes you wonder, doesn't it......

Napoleon 01-13-2011 07:04 PM

I wonder how long it takes before the hat is also 'traditionally' Greek?

Makedonetz 01-13-2011 07:20 PM

[img]http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2007/11/RO191s.jpg[/img]

[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2894153538_bffd14371e.jpg[/img]

[img]http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/52462263.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D0FBE06F3DB2FE228789E33D13F55C7F94362EAF347BE4F4F[/img]

Now i see why greece wants to claim our Macedonian as their history....their history are a bunch of mountain goats with nothing!

Risto the Great 01-13-2011 07:25 PM

My goodness. What interesting observations. Thanks Napoleon and SoM

Soldier of Macedon 01-13-2011 07:28 PM

[QUOTE="Makedonetz"]Now i see why greece wants to claim our Macedonian as their history....their history are a bunch of mountain goats with nothing![/QUOTE]
Greece's history is more than just a bunch of mountain goats, try and apply some balance in your arguments.

Makedonetz 01-13-2011 09:34 PM

my apologies SoM i forgot the Minotaur and Pan, Poseidon, Asiris, Hera, Hestia, Themis, Dioscuri

Onur 01-13-2011 09:35 PM

[QUOTE=Napoleon;85962]Below is a picture of a typical Khalaj Turk peasant from northern Iran.
[/QUOTE]

Napoleon, your avatar is so cool. Siamese with a fez :lol:


Btw, thnx for msg cuz i learned another Turkic people cuz i didn't even hear these Khalaj people b4. Turks are too many and they are everywhere even i cant keep up with all of em!!!

I checked from the internet and apparently these people are not Azeri Turks even tough they live close to them in northern Iran, close to Turkish border. They are similar with yoruk people in Balkans, the semi-nomadic ones gone to the Balkans in very early stages, like 14-15th century. They probably remained there just b4 today`s border between Iran and Turkey has been drawn. They are alevi-bektashi like yoruks and probably the last nomadic people who only settled after 19th century and apparently they are speaking a very archaic dialect of Turkish according to a research. So, the ones who migrated in to the Balkans from Anatolia at very early times was the cousins of these Khalaj people in northern Iran. This also supports your "hat" theory. Ofc the other cousins of these people who remained in Anatolia already lost their unique dialect among other Turks with common dialect in Turkey.

I found this article written by an Iranian guy;

[QUOTE]The oldest Turkic language is the Khalaj language which is spoken by people of Khalajestan in the west-central part of Iran from the ancient times, one of reasons can be some features such as preservation of word-initial Proto-Turkic *h, and lack of the sound change *d > y which has led to other Turkic languages. An example of these archaisms is present in the word hadaq ("foot"), which has preserved the initial *h and medial *d. The equivalent form in nearby Oghuz dialects is ayaq.

They can be easily distinguished from other people of this region because of their white skins

[IMG]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1563/qashqainomad.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6271/thelobaoymaqlarimiz.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Makedonetz 01-13-2011 09:40 PM

thats interesting blue eyes and fair skin tone.


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