Macedonia region census early 1900s

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  • Poligiros
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    • Mar 2014
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    Macedonia region census early 1900s

    Hi,

    Was wondering if anyone can post a map or census information from any source (reputable or not) showing Macedonians or even "Slav-Macedonian" population breakdowns in the early 1900s up until 1950, along with the other ethnic groups in Aegean Macedonia?

    Please provide the source, whether it be wiki or any other medium and the yea.

    I have seen an Ottoman census in another thread a while back. Please re post along with any other info.

    Thanks
  • Toska
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    • Sep 2008
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    #2




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    • Poligiros
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      • Mar 2014
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      #3
      Originally posted by Toska View Post


      Thanks,

      This is the one I am particularly interested in 1906.

      Shows the kind of Hellenic population breakdown that I was expecting and 2 of my grandparents regions of Aegean Macedonia. This is prior to the population exchanges.

      The native Hellenic population is still prevalent in the coastal, southern, eastern and western regions of Aegean Macedonia.

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      • Toska
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        • Sep 2008
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        #4
        its a very interesting map because its actually written by a greek for the Athens university and too me it makes no sense, he is not writing within the guidelines of the greek idea,

        how can slav Macedonians exist in Macedonia,but no Bulgarians, how can greeks be dominant areas, but not in Salonika, are the greeks showed in the Macedonia ethnic Greeks or just part the Greek Orthodox Church, the map makes no sense whatsoever.

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        • Jeremy
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          • Jan 2016
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          #5
          Originally posted by Toska View Post
          its a very interesting map because its actually written by a greek for the Athens university and too me it makes no sense, he is not writing within the guidelines of the greek idea,

          how can slav Macedonians exist in Macedonia,but no Bulgarians, how can greeks be dominant areas, but not in Salonika, are the greeks showed in the Macedonia ethnic Greeks or just part the Greek Orthodox Church, the map makes no sense whatsoever.
          That's what I thought too. Looks like Mr Bean made this map.

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          • Amphipolis
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            • Aug 2014
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            #6
            You have asked that before. There are several threads with maps, I think the best aggregation is here:

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            Post #72 has 4 links to a total of 40 (!) maps, aggregated in a Bulgarian website, yet very good one.

            Post #77 has a wikipedia link to a total of 24 maps.

            Of course, the most famous maps appear in both sites.

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            • Toska
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              • Sep 2008
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              #7
              and how on earth is what you showed relevant to what was asked in the question.

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              • Amphipolis
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                • Aug 2014
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                #8
                Originally posted by Toska View Post
                and how on earth is what you showed relevant to what was asked in the question.
                Ι was refering to Poligiros. Regarding your points or questions:

                Originally posted by Toska View Post
                its a very interesting map because its actually written by a greek for the Athens university and too me it makes no sense, he is not writing within the guidelines of the greek idea,

                how can slav Macedonians exist in Macedonia,but no Bulgarians, how can greeks be dominant areas, but not in Salonika, are the greeks showed in the Macedonia ethnic Greeks or just part the Greek Orthodox Church, the map makes no sense whatsoever.
                You're not familiar to the Greek ideas (of 1910s or today). The difference between Bulgarians and Slavs in Macedonia is inexistent or hard to find and especially paint in a map. The area around Thessaloniki is yellow (as far as I can see), i.e. ethnic Greek. Ethnic Greek means Christian Greek speaker. Muslims and Slav speakers are in different colors.

                By the way, the smaller map (in lower-left) is later that the big map and the main differences can be found in the district of Kilkis. Thus, the two maps are probably BEFORE and AFTER the Balkan wars and population exchanges with Bulgaria.

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                • MAKEDON70
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                  • Feb 2016
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                  #9
                  Greek ideas ?? Aide re aderfe all your doing is validating there stupidity . Why don't you ask for ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them before the bulgar population exchange or even from the 40s . Monastiri , Gevgeli , strumitsa . Xorio mou from fathers side (Kastoria ) was bi-trilingual , mums was aswell so what we spoke made no difference .

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                  • VMRO
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                    • Sep 2008
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MAKEDON70 View Post
                    Greek ideas ?? Aide re aderfe all your doing is validating there stupidity . Why don't you ask for ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them before the bulgar population exchange or even from the 40s . Monastiri , Gevgeli , strumitsa . Xorio mou from fathers side (Kastoria ) was bi-trilingual , mums was aswell so what we spoke made no difference .


                    I can't recall a village by the name of Xorio in Kostur?

                    You sure that's the real name?
                    Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

                    Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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                    • Mad Mak
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                      • May 2015
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MAKEDON70 View Post
                      Greek ideas ?? Aide re aderfe all your doing is validating there stupidity .
                      Welcome MAKEDON70. Do you always introduce yourself by insulting people?

                      Originally posted by MAKEDON70 View Post
                      Why don't you ask for ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them before the bulgar population exchange or even from the 40s .
                      Why don't YOU give us thoses "ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them before the bulgar population exchange or even from the 40s"? We are interested.

                      Originally posted by MAKEDON70 View Post
                      Monastiri , Gevgeli , strumitsa . Xorio mou from fathers side (Kastoria ) was bi-trilingual , mums was aswell so what we spoke made no difference .
                      Originally posted by VMRO View Post
                      I can't recall a village by the name of Xorio in Kostur?

                      You sure that's the real name?
                      VMRO, I think he meant his father's village (Kastoria/Kostur) was "bi-trilingual".

                      MAKEDON70, please refrain from writing in greek.

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                      • Amphipolis
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                        • Aug 2014
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                        #12
                        These districts DO appear in the maps I have linked. You can already seen them in two of the three maps of post#1. By the way here's a Nazi ethnic map of Yugoslavia 1940.

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                        • Mad Mak
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                          • May 2015
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                          #13
                          My previous post was directed at MAKEDON70, but thanks for your input Amphipolis. It will help our new friend.
                          Last edited by Mad Mak; 02-20-2016, 07:49 PM.

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                          • VMRO
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                            • Sep 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mad Mak View Post
                            Welcome MAKEDON70. Do you always introduce yourself by insulting people?



                            Why don't YOU give us thoses "ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them before the bulgar population exchange or even from the 40s"? We are interested.




                            VMRO, I think he meant his father's village (Kastoria/Kostur) was "bi-trilingual".

                            MAKEDON70, please refrain from writing in greek.

                            I highly doubt that his relatives are from the city and if they were then his grand parents would have originally been from one of the surrounding villages.
                            Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

                            Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
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                              • Sep 2008
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Poligiros
                              This is prior to the population exchanges.
                              And after decades of Patriarchate lackeys imposing their will on people that didn't speak Greek as their native language.
                              Originally posted by Amphipolis
                              Ethnic Greek means Christian Greek speaker.
                              The Greeks like to tell themselves that, even though in 1906 (during and in the Ottoman Empire) a 'Greek' was more likely to be a Macedonian, Vlach or Albanian adherent of the Patriarchate.
                              Originally posted by MAKEDON70
                              Greek ideas ?? Aide re aderfe all your doing is validating there stupidity . Why don't you ask for ethnic maps of Vardar from 1900 from them
                              Who are the "there" (their) and "them" you're making reference to?
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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