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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    Dumb Macedonians

    Imagine a death notice in a newspaper for a person who died.
    Described as adoring "Papou" of a number of Grandchildren.

    Then ... EVERY Grandchild calls the deceased "Dedo" in their personal messages.

    Then ... the dumbest Grkomanka Grandchild says ... "Detho, I will never forget how you called me na Detho chupche" ... and continues to proclaim the pure Greekness of her family line.

    Dumb Macedonians = Grkomani
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13669

    #2
    That would not suprise me in the least, such confusion and blatant denial is prevalent among Grkomani. I have seen similar instances in the past, like an old workmate of mine who claimed to be a Greek yet did not know the Greek language. When I asked him if he can speak Macedonian, he answers yes, mum and dad speak it at home

    I haven't given up all hope on all of them just yet, if they can learn a lie, they can unlearn it also.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Jankovska
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1774

      #3
      I just don't know what to say, I always find it difficult to understand how people can get through life without using their brains

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      • Venom
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 445

        #4
        Seriously, are we the easiest race to pretopi or what? Grkomani, Bugarofili, Shiptarofili, Srbomani... is it in fashion to be anything but yourself?

        Risto, your example is dumb to the a massive degree, but SoM, yours takes the cake I think.
        S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13669

          #5
          Originally posted by Venom View Post
          Seriously, are we the easiest race to pretopi or what? Grkomani, Bugarofili, Shiptarofili, Srbomani... is it in fashion to be anything but yourself?

          Risto, your example is dumb to the a massive degree, but SoM, yours takes the cake I think.
          Not sure if the onus is entirely on us rather than the amount of propaganda from various sources imposed on us, no other Balkan nation has endured what we have in this respect.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Sarafot
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 616

            #6
            Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
            Not sure if the onus is entirely on us rather than the amount of propaganda from various sources imposed on us, no other Balkan nation has endured what we have in this respect.
            I think it is parents to blame or may be sistem in which we live,or the time,i belive that generations from 1940 to 1970,they all have that socialistic spirit,like ''we are all peoples'',i tray that staff with older and yunger generations,for exe. my grand ma is 87,she know good what she is and what is ours or not,that is with younger generation to,like us.

            Also we all must understand,that for exe.there was not a single Macedonian institution until 1991 which would suport Macedonians outside Macedonia and even in Macedonia,other nationalistic ideas were ''zapreni vo kalta''(Goli otok,5 strumički studenti,Čento.....)?!
            Opinions?
            Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
            - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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            • Venom
              Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 445

              #7
              Yes you're both right. No other nation has endured what Macedonia has endured from all over her neighbours.
              S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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              • Spartan
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1037

                #8
                Funny you bring this topic up Risto, reminds me of a family I know through a friend.
                Listen to this one guys, you'll die of laughter.
                Through a friend I know this family from Northern Greece, here in Toronto.
                The parents claim to be Greek, yet their children call their grandmother yiayia and their Grandfather dedo.
                The son is a diehard Greek- Greek this, Greek that etc
                His sister though, is a pure Macedonian and is against anything Greek.
                Now thats some serious confusion....

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                • Boge
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 157

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  Imagine a death notice in a newspaper for a person who died.
                  Described as adoring "Papou" of a number of Grandchildren.

                  Then ... EVERY Grandchild calls the deceased "Dedo" in their personal messages.

                  Then ... the dumbest Grkomanka Grandchild says ... "Detho, I will never forget how you called me na Detho chupche" ... and continues to proclaim the pure Greekness of her family line.

                  Dumb Macedonians = Grkomani
                  I am somewhat taken aback at reading this statement. For I, and many other Ethnic Macedonians, don’t agree with this sentiment. This idea of a Gr..Sr..Bu…man is a self defeatist policy from the outset.

                  And if family members of these, shall we say Mani, don’t have the courage to set the record straight. Well I see no reason as to why we should support these gutless individuals or members of their families in the first place

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                  • Sarafot
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 616

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spartan View Post
                    Funny you bring this topic up Risto, reminds me of a family I know through a friend.
                    Listen to this one guys, you'll die of laughter.
                    Through a friend I know this family from Northern Greece, here in Toronto.
                    The parents claim to be Greek, yet their children call their grandmother yiayia and their Grandfather dedo.
                    The son is a diehard Greek- Greek this, Greek that etc
                    His sister though, is a pure Macedonian and is against anything Greek.
                    Now thats some serious confusion....
                    There are many like them,i know a man around 50 years old,who live here in Slovenia for 30 years,he commed here when he was 17,then he went to Austria for 3 years and commed back to Slovenia,he EDVAj speaks Macedonian,when i ask him why he das not speak mother thong,he said with who,home we are speaking Serbian,kids are speaking Slovenian,and with who shall i speak it,he asked me?Few months later,he said to me,you know my son is learning Macedonian,he was so proud. I'm telling you guys the entire generation was confused.
                    Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
                    - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Boge View Post
                      I am somewhat taken aback at reading this statement. For I, and many other Ethnic Macedonians, don’t agree with this sentiment. This idea of a Gr..Sr..Bu…man is a self defeatist policy from the outset.

                      And if family members of these, shall we say Mani, don’t have the courage to set the record straight. Well I see no reason as to why we should support these gutless individuals or members of their families in the first place
                      Typically this attitude is formulated by one influential family member (whose Greek identity is questionable) who has more connections with clergy etc. If anyone understates the significance of the church and its strategy to eradicate us Macedonians, I will slap them. It is the most evil act imaginable and continues to this very day.

                      These people who are complacent about their identity have already lost it. It can be taken back but it is a huge leap to get back there.

                      Unfortunately, too many families have been split as a result of these issues. Whilst seemingly trivial in the grand scheme, it makes life unbearable for many. In this case Boge, would you advocate abandoning those family members? In my case, I would.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Rogi
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2343

                        #12
                        Boge,

                        Don't count them as lost souls just yet. Everything can change and in a very short period.
                        Once upon a time, here in Australia the VAST majority of Macedonians originating from what is today the Republic of Macedonia would refer to themselves as Yugoslavs. We could have said they are all a lost cause.

                        However, it took a few dedicated and organised groups of people their best efforts to get rid of this and they managed to do so within a period of 10 years.

                        Today, the number of Macedonians who refer to themselves as Yugoslavs is almost non-existent.

                        Now, despite the so-called 'Grkomani' who refer to themselves as pure Greeks and whatnot, in every one of their families they have relatives who are the self-conscious ethnic Macedonians and more than that, even the Grkomani know who 'their own' people are, they all (some more than others) still know they are different to the Magiri/Prosfygi and the Greeks from the south and they always feel closer to their own (grkomani with grkomani) and there is quite a lot in all of that to build upon and use as a basis for the re-awakening of the Macedonian people.

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                        • MapleLeaf1
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 114

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Spartan View Post
                          Funny you bring this topic up Risto, reminds me of a family I know through a friend.
                          Listen to this one guys, you'll die of laughter.
                          Through a friend I know this family from Northern Greece, here in Toronto.
                          The parents claim to be Greek, yet their children call their grandmother yiayia and their Grandfather dedo.
                          The son is a diehard Greek- Greek this, Greek that etc
                          His sister though, is a pure Macedonian and is against anything Greek.
                          Now thats some serious confusion....
                          Believe you me spartan, there are lots of families like that in Toronto, including cousins of mine that are half Macedonian(Egej) half Greek(Spartan), who called their Paternal Grandparents Baba/Dedo, but their kids call their parents yiayia/papou even thou they are married to "manja cakes" Another example is calling one uncle Vujche and the other Theo even thou they are both brothers
                          The familiy you described is pure Macedonian, seems like the sister is the only one with her head screwed on right

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                          • MapleLeaf1
                            Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 114

                            #14
                            still know they are different to the Magiri/Prosfygi and the Greeks from the south and they always feel closer to their own (grkomani with grkomani)
                            And thats why Rogi they tend to marry amongst each other
                            A grkoman father has a lot harder time giving up his daughter to a greek, than he would if his son was to marry a greek, it almost seems as some kind of conquest or of finally making the family pure greek

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                            • osiris
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1969

                              #15
                              sad but true the plight of the grkomani, i used to hate the motherfuckers but seeing what has panned out these past 40 years makes me pity them. rogi is right all is not lost the greek badge worn with such pride can easily be discarded and then spat upon. i have witnessed that journey in some of my relatives.

                              spartan that post of yours is funny man but also tragic, how do you as a person whose identity never been questioned relate to the divided ones.

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