Best Army-Leader

[Wanderer]

Which,in your opinion,is the best army,ever passed in history?
And who is the best leader?

Well,most of you would say Macedonia Army and Alexander the Great,but we can go and to other edges,discussing about other generals,other armies and their tactics or the way they been advancing in the battlefield.

In my opinion,
Best Army:
1)Spartans
2)Vikings
3)Mongols

Best Leaders:
1)Great Alexander
2)Genghis Khan
3)Napoleon
4)Hannibal
5)Rommel

and many more,the list goes on.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Well, seeing as you chose not to venture outside the edges yourself too much with your reference to Spartans, I feel obliged to list the Macedonians, as the first professional army in Europe and the first conquerors of (most of) the known world at the time.

As for best leaders, I think in many respects Phillip II was better than Alexander, and the mighty military machine known as the Macedonian army was inherited by Alexander from his father.

I would also list Leonidas as one of the best leaders, and also Hector of Troy, as they fought with heart and alongside their men till then end of their lives.

[Bill77]

As for leader, i can't go past William Wallace. Love the name love the Movie.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Good name, good movie. His story is even better.

[Wanderer]

Well, seeing as you chose not to venture outside the edges yourself too much with your reference to Spartans, I feel obliged to list the Macedonians, as the first professional army in Europe and the first conquerors of (most of) the known world at the time.

As for best leaders, I think in many respects Phillip II was better than Alexander, and the mighty military machine known as the Macedonian army was inherited by Alexander from his father.

I would also list Leonidas as one of the best leaders, and also Hector of Troy, as they fought with heart and alongside their men till then end of their lives.

Agreed up to a certain point,but dont you think we should go further and not see only that time of period?I mean if we look,other periods we can find bright fighters and generals.

Also,i disagree where you say that Macedonian army was the first professional.If you look it from the view ,of the disciplined and obeyable soldier,then we should have Spartans,since they were first of chronological order(Spartans 600 B.C.-350 B.C. approx) while Macedonians were later.Also we should not forget,Roman Army.

[julie]

As for leader, i can't go past William Wallace. Love the name love the Movie.

braveheart he was.

[julie]

Agreed up to a certain point,but dont you think we should go further and not see only that time of period?I mean if we look,other periods we can find bright fighters and generals.

Also,i disagree where you say that Macedonian army was the first professional.If you look it from the view ,of the disciplined and obeyable soldier,then we should have Spartans,since they were first of chronological order(Spartans 600 B.C.-350 B.C. approx) while Macedonians were later.Also we should not forget,Roman Army.

Philip of Macedon
the phalanx was the tactical formation formed by our Macedonian King which Alexander the Great used in his conquests

[Jankovska]

Philip the second of Macedonia and the Macedonian Army.

[Bill77]

Philip the second of Macedonia and the Macedonian Army.

I am not sure if this person would fall in this catergory, But he was a leader, Defeated an empire and he done it with out rasing a hand.........Ghandi

[Bill77]

Philip the second of Macedonia and the Macedonian Army.

What was so special about Philip and later Alexander was that many times they were out numbered and still came out victorious.

[astibo]

I can say that the best soldiers where the Macedonians and in the time of Alexander, and not just becouse they have won many victories where thay where largely outnumbered, but also becouse of thear famous marches, like that throu the desert on thay way back from india (alexander heard that it is not posible to cross that desert and he just wannet to prove that he and his army can achive some thing that was considered as impossible at that time). Also the forced march for capturing the Persian king Darius, leed by Alexander and the elitte Agrians and companion cavalry.

[Spartan]

While Phillip may have been the better all around leader, there is no question(in my mind anyways) that Alexander was by far the better strategist on the battlefield.

Genghis kahn is another great leadert that rarely gets mentioned. His empire at its height was considerably larger than Alexanders.

Asfor the Macedonian army vs that of the Spartans, it would have been nice if they faced off in their prime. Unfortunately, Sparta was declining as Macedonia was rising when they eventually did meet in battle.

I would of liked to see Alexander and his Macedonians, against Leonidas and the full Spartan army sometime around 490 bc.
Alas, it was not meant to be.

[The LION will ROAR]

Army of Alexander The Great was unquestionably the greatest army of the ancient world. His army of just over 40,000 men were never defeated. In 333 BC he defeated the Persian army of over 200,000 men under the leadership of Persian King Darius. He was revered by other great military leaders such as Julius Caesar.
Roman Army, they almost conquered the known world.
Spartan Army, May have been the best trained Soldiers in ancient times.
The Mongols, they took China completely, and quite a bit of Russia, Turkey and Europe.


One can say the Spartan army was perhaps the most well trained army in the ancient Greek world; but whilst Athens controlled the sea they were unable to effectively use it
The Spartans weren't warriors, they were proper soldiers, which was one reason they were so formidable. But their combat record included many losses and never forget the real reason for Spartan militarism was to hold down the Helots at home; the Spartan army was kind of a mixture of the Gestapo, Einsatzgruppen and the Waffen SS.

In the end to hold up their rotten and corrupt system they were reduced to taking money from Persia to fight other Greeks and still they fell to the Thebans and revolt at home.

What are your thoughts Spartan..?

[The LION will ROAR]

List of largest Empires

http://www.tv.com/users/AllKnowingBeing/profile.php?action=show_blog&entry=m-100-25420981

List of largest empires :

1.)British Empire
2.)Mongol Empire
3.)Russian Empire
4.)Spanish Empire
5.)Umayyad Caliphate
6.)Qing Dynasty
7.)French Empire
8.)Portuguese Empire
9.)United States of America
10.)Rashidun Caliphate
11.)Empire of Brazil
12.)Achaemenid Empire
13.)Japanese Empire
14.)Ming Dynasty
15.)Han Dynasty
16.)Roman Empire
17.)Ottoman Empire
18.)MACEDONIAN EMPIRE
19.)Tang Dynasty
20.)Maurya Empire

[The LION will ROAR]

IN ALL MY YEARS OF WAR, I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE, SEEN ANYTHING MORE TERRIFYING, THAN THOSE MACEDONIANS ADVANCING ON THE BATTLEFIELD“ - Aemilius Paullus