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  • Demos
    Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 325

    #46
    Originally posted by MapleLeaf1 View Post
    Racist prick
    And the consequences will soon be felt.

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    • Sarafot
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 616

      #47
      Originally posted by Demos View Post
      And the consequences will soon be felt.
      Time will show,Serbs will fall,together with Ciganada and Bajgania,modern fegs of Europe das not like nationalists!
      Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
      - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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      • Pelister
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2742

        #48
        Originally posted by Demos View Post
        And the consequences will soon be felt.
        If the Macedonians do nothing, Greece is fucked.

        The New Greeks have territorial aspirations, its not finished yet, and the only reason Greece can get away with this shit is because it has the full support of Western Europe, but if Greece pisses off enough people Europe, Europe might change its strategy.

        If the Macedonian question doesn't go away (as Europe would have liked it to and took measures to achieve that), they might one day soon do an about face and change their strategy. When that day comes, Greece will be fucked forever.

        Can you imagine it? Europe deciding that the best way to achieve peace in the region is not to encourage the denial and elimination of the Macedonians, but rather to force the revisionist occupiers to give Macedonians full human rights and full recognition.

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        • 1946-1949
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 33

          #49
          Originally posted by Pelister View Post
          If the Macedonians do nothing, Greece is fucked.

          The New Greeks have territorial aspirations, its not finished yet, and the only reason Greece can get away with this shit is because it has the full support of Western Europe, but if Greece pisses off enough people Europe, Europe might change its strategy.

          If the Macedonian question doesn't go away (as Europe would have liked it to and took measures to achieve that), they might one day soon do an about face and change their strategy. When that day comes, Greece will be fucked forever.

          Can you imagine it? Europe deciding that the best way to achieve peace in the region is not to encourage the denial and elimination of the Macedonians, but rather to force the revisionist occupiers to give Macedonians full human rights and full recognition.
          Good to see that people still believe in Santa Claus.

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          • Pelister
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2742

            #50
            Originally posted by 1946-1949 View Post
            Good to see that people still believe in Santa Claus.

            It is possible that Western Europe might change its strategy regarding what to do with Macedonian national minorities [1] - and when that day comes amigo, Greece will be in trouble.


            [1] Since 1919, Europe's policy regarding the Macedonian national minoriies has been one of assimilation and elimination, and has fully supported Greece anti-Macedonian colonizing practices, and efforts to eliminate them, and this continues to be its position in 2008.

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            • 1946-1949
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 33

              #51
              Western Europe might also decide that no such minorities exist either. Then what are we going to do?

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13675

                #52
                Who is we? And what's with the 46-49, is that when your sellout ancestors forged their artificial Hellenic identity?

                "Give us all your Christian Asians and within a few years we will turn them into Hellenes" - Greece to Turkey, 1920's.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • 1946-1949
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 33

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                  Who is we? And what's with the 46-49, is that when your sellout ancestors forged their artificial Hellenic identity?

                  "Give us all your Christian Asians and within a few years we will turn them into Hellenes" - Greece to Turkey, 1920's.
                  No, thats when the Allies destroyed the fascist Commies.

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                  • Pelister
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2742

                    #54
                    Originally posted by 1946-1949 View Post
                    Western Europe might also decide that no such minorities exist either. Then what are we going to do?
                    You seem to have missed my point.

                    Europe's position is political.

                    Europe has always understood that there is a separate and unique Macedonian ethnic group; it has said so, many, many times in official correspondence.

                    The reasons why Europe has been actively denying and encouraging the assimilation and elimination of the Macedonian national minority, post 1913 and 1919, are political. Europe believed then (and still believes) that the elimination of the Macedonian minorities, would secure peace in the region.

                    They have wanted the Macedonians to disappear, hoping this would bring peace to the region. (but clearly they have not).

                    What I am saying to you is what if the E.U changes its political position. What if it realizes the Macedonians are not going away, and won't disappear (they've allowed Greece to attempt this with full European support over the last 90 years), and decides the best way to achieve peace is to change its strategy - and push for full recognition, thereby isolating Greece? Where then for Greece?

                    If Europe recognizes the Macedonian national minorities, Greece is completely and utterly isolated, now and historically ! It would fuck Greece up forever, which explains why Greece is making so much noise about it, because Greece hopes to God that Europe's support for her position, isn't changing as we speak.

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