So, once more
We have not connection at these languages .Why and how come not to ?
Lets move forward.
Now lets put at this way
All around the Globe not only Mediterranean Ma mean Mother ?
he very first ever recorded name/tittle for God is the word Ma ?
His symbol is the one above
|`- God..
All of archaeologist will agree that this is the very first word for God.
All of the linguistics will agree that this is the letters used for spelling of the word for God.
But none of them will say that these are letters for describing of God at femine form.as Her ,or as Mother
As far as we know for those ancient times two things must to be pointed :
- matriarchy as kind of religious form and
- cult of maternity
According to those facts we must to have a bit of different description
|` Goddess instead of |` God
and Her very first recorded and shortest as well form of Ma
So we certainly have
| -consonant or "M"
`-vowel or "a" joined together as the very first word
|`= Ma
"Make" in many other languages means many other things except mother..."
That is quite correct , but claim I am having is that Make as a word has got its root at the word Mama
As neologism of the word
Makedonia or
Make+Don+ia ,
Make is neologism for it self built up with joining of two words Ma+Ma or Mama.
and the Word was the Word or duMA , and the word was Mama
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If we remind our selves Greeks are having this explanations over Macedonian name meaning
They are mostly claiming that Macedonia means
-tall, long and highlander
Greeks are having an enter for explanation of theirs claims that name of Macedonia derived from the Indo-European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender' (attested in Homer, and recorded by Hesychius of Alexandria as a Doric word meaning "large"), or makros ('long, large'), as well as related words in other Indo-European languages. It is commonly explained as having originally meant 'the tall ones' or 'highlanders'.8 ..."
But when we have a type of little star symbol presented at the word as this one * named as asterix at the words top ,meaning that is about the guess. Guess what need to be verified.
Have a look one more time .
"European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender'.."
Focus is at the word mak,presented at this way *mak-
here are some more examples were mak as a root does NOT matches Make with the meaning what I am pointing to all of you, including the author of this clip .
It is from analysis of Julius Pokorny
"mak- 'skin, leather bag'
Indo-European Reflexes:
English
Old English: maga
Middle English: maw
English: maw stomach: where food goes when swallowed
W-Germanic
Old High German: mago n maw
N-Germanic
Old Norse: maGi n.masc maw
Baltic
Lithuanian: maKis n.masc purse
Masedonian meV n. meshe .." 9
Lets compare Greek’s given meaning with some of Mediterranean languages:
Arabic :Tall, long, highlander -Tawil,Tawil,Reefiy;
Catalan:Tall, long , highlander Alt;llarg;gent de la muntanya;
Spanish:Tall,long, highlander -Alto;Largo;montaniero;...
Italian :Tall, long, highlander - alto, lungo,montanaro..
We have not connection at these languages , and we have to ask ourselves what about Greek mentioning and argumentation of process of spreading of Greek language and culture all over an area ?
We can not see , either the same ,either similar meaning at these languages as impact what could have remained at all .
Same with Sanskrit language successor or Hindi.
Over they at Hindi
meanings for
tall, long, highlander are : lamba, lambe, pahaadee.
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Ref:
8- Μακεδονία, Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, on Perseus
Macedonia, Online Etymology Dictionary
Harper, Douglas. "Online Etymology Dictionary".
9 Julius Pokorny "Indogermanisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch"(Bern, 1959). P.696, РП 698, p.730.
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Over possible meaning and origin of Macedonian name
At this way observing we could have search over possible meaning and possible origin Macedonia as a name .
To do that firstly a bit of preface:
We are doing it having an methodology as helpful tool .
Methodology is named as comparative methodology .
- Comparative methodology
Comparative method In linguistics,is a technique for studying the development of languages by performing a feature-by-feature comparison of two or more languages, as opposed to the method of internal reconstruction, which analyzes the internal development of a single language over time.
Ordinarily both methods are used together to reconstruct prehistoric phases of languages, to fill in gaps in the historical record of a language, to discover the development of phonological, morphological, and other linguistic systems, and to confirm or refute hypothesized relationships between languages.
The comparative method was developed over the 19th century. Key contributions were made by the Danish scholars Rasmus Rask and Karl Verner and the German scholar Jacob Grimm. The first linguist to offer reconstructed forms from a proto-language was August Schleicher, in his Compendium der vergleichenden Grammatik der indogermanischen Sprachen, originally published in 1861.
.. Subjectivity of the reconstruction The reconstruction of unknown proto-languages is inherently subjective. In the Proto-Algonquian example above, the choice of *m as the parent phoneme is only likely, not certain. It is conceivable that a Proto-Algonquian language with *b in those positions split into two branches, one which preserved *b and one which changed it to *m instead; and while the first branch only developed into Arapaho, the second spread out wider and developed into all the other Algonquian tribes. It is also possible that the nearest common ancestor of the Algonquian languages used some other sound instead, such as *p, which eventually mutated to *b in one branch and to *m in the other. Since reconstruction involves many of these choices, some linguists prefer to view the reconstructed features as abstract representations of sound correspondences, rather than as objects with a historical time and place. The existence of proto-languages and the validity of the comparative method is verifiable in cases where the reconstruction can be matched to a known language, which may only be known as a shadow in the loanwords of another language. For example Baltic-Finnic languages such as Finnish have borrowed many words from an early stage of Germanic, and the shape of the loans matches the forms that have been reconstructed for Proto-Germanic. Finnish kuningas 'king' and kaunis 'beautiful' match the Germanic reconstructions *kuningaz and *skauniz(>German König 'king', schön 'beautiful'). -7
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So my amateurism is making this conclusion :
In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was the Word or duMA , and the word was when we remind that our first ever told ..
word was Mama
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Don for rest of elements
Don - W+Don -Wodon -Voda -Water
Don
d-g
Gon*-O+Gon-Ogon -Fire
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Duma for Don
when
m shift to n
Duma
m->n
Duna
Dona
Don standing for God
A Don ai-Hebrew
Deus-Latin
Deus, -Portugal
Dios-Spanish
Dieu-French~
Dio, idolo-Italian
Diyos-(lat inf),
D->T-TH
Theos or Θεόs-Greek
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Duma standing for root of tittle for God world wide
Dumnezeu-Romanian~*Dumne-Duma
Juma la -Finnish~*D+juma~*Djumala~*Duma
Dduw, nuw, Celi, Dofydd, celi, cheli, geli, ngheli-Welsh
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Duma standing for four elements at Macedonian
Duma for the Earth
D->dz
While reconstruction make from PIE via the word *dhghom where compared with :
Latin hum-us, old Macedonian zemlja
Litvanian žem-ė
Avestinian zam
Greek kham-aí leading to *ghom-/*ghem , expanding trough Greek khthōn, gen. khthonós
Sans kšam-
Hetitian tekan, gen. tagnas,compat..` tagan ‘
Trough all of it ,already reconstructed word should be *ghðom-, with *ghð initial what lead to Greek khth and Sans. kš.
Further assume that the sound reduction from *ghð to *gh does make very first sounding group for a lott of I.E. linguists
Theirs another group of IE linguists what *ghð will take out of *ghz as second sounding group.
And we will follow this second sounds *gh. -> *ghð ->*ghz, observing trough D-Dz sound
Adding this letter transformation
at the word Duma we could have :
Duma
Dz um æ
Dzem æ* ->Zem æ ->Zemia ->zemja the Earth
Could you see similarity with the Goddesses of Semele or Cybele ?
Thus because MakeDon under letter means Earth Mother
Over letter Dz ( Ѕ ) in Macedonian have to explain that prove we have is at the latest Macedonian reformer and his Grammar of Macedonian Language where he is paving over that instead of dialectical Dzemia ( Ѕемја) in use will be word Zemja (Земја ) as well as for the word edzero will be ezero, Lake , solza instead od soldzi tears ...and so on...6
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6-Blaze Koneski," Macedonian literature language Grammar part I and II ", Skopje 1976 ..page 111Last edited by Goce Homer MakeDonski; 03-28-2016, 06:08 PM.
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3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.…
And God said, and it happened .God all has done with his Word .
And Make pro -Duma and it happened . What is that all things ?
The answer is four elements
At English that could sound at this way
Using the word Terra
Terra - The Earth
Terra -Water
Terra - air
Terra - Fire
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2 He was in the beginning with God.
Second requirement
multiplication for the word God gave making equality explaining that duMa was in the beginning with Make
, and The Word was with God,
analyzing via previously changes will say that been done at this way
Duma was with MaMa
or
MaMa is with duMa
or
Make is with DuMa
at the same way as
Ma is with Terra - Mother
or
Pa is with Terra -Padre- Father
Difference is that Terra does not stand more than for Earth
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From Make to Bog
examples of word changes in Macedonian languages are in the word standing for gibberish
For letter m->b shift
Mrmori mutters
Brbori blabbing
or
Mekanje
Bekenje as domestic onomatopoeia
Make means Mother
m->b
Bake*
another m->b changes
SeMele / CyBelle
The Bacchæ's Chorus tells us that the timbrel, the flat drum, of Dionysos comes from the Mother --- that is, Kybele. Dionysos' connection with the Mother and with His Mother Semele and with females in general point to the OLD religion of Mother and Child.
Changes of M, esp. in dialects:
2. into B,
as Mεμβράς ,Bεμβράς; Bροτός, Aeol. Mορτός ( v.άμβροτος fin.) and άBροτάξομεν for (from άMαρτάνω) ; μολєίν aor. of. βλώσκω ; κυBєρνήτης , Aeol. κυMєρνήτης ...3
Next shift is with K -> G letters
Examples ar at the words standing for Istar ... Istar is Veligden , because is Great day Velik day
Velikday
Veligden
change of k-g
I. κ is near akin to γ,χ.,differing only in its harder pronunciation; hence, the older Att. changed χνόος γναπτω ρευχω,into κνοος κναπτω : so in Ion. χιτων became κιθων ,βεχομαι βεκομαι,βατραχος βατρακος,χυτρα κυθρη,etc.; soγονυ (cf. προχνυ) is akin to our knee; cf.Lob.P.HRYN.173, 307. ….4
From here we can see that at word γναπτω κναπτω there is ancient k-g change records ,as well noted at previouses pages at the same lexicon ,given under the letter Γ
as ….
IV.also with κ, γναπτω κναπτω ....5
Over
K-G-changes into Macedonian
VeliK den
VeliGden -Istar
or
kukuriKu
KukuriGu
Bake*
k->g
BaGe
Baga
Bog
or from feminine tittle of Her up to masculine tittle of Him
Make - Mother
Bog - Father
English analogy could be seen at the words
Mother from Ma Terra up to
Father from Pa Terra
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Ref.
3-Henry George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.953
4- George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.750
5- George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.306Last edited by Goce Homer MakeDonski; 03-28-2016, 06:08 PM.
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From MaMa to MakE
Indeed I am so fare missing a bridging in between these two words , but some how I am "breathing behind theirs neck"
Skipping what I am missing ,I am moving forward.My country name is Makedonija or Macedonia .Splitting this name we have two words as ground for neologism .
Make + Don or Mace Don
Word Make
It does means Mother , and because we have letter E ending we have enter that is about word Mama
Ма+Ма = >МакЕ
and it is about word mother Мајка Мајка meaning Goddesses , expressed as feminine
Word standing for God in Macedonian is Bog or Бог and it is expressed as masculine .
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In Macedonian language
Mama is as elsewhere singular expressed word .
but from sing, we will match its dual form at this splitting way.
Mama- sing.
Ma+Ma = pl.
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1+1 = 2
Dual as more then one and less than three at Macedonian language is always presented with letter E at the word ends.
Examples for parallel today are the words
раце -race - hands
нозе -noze -legs
Always letter e as words ending
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Second requirement
multiplication for the word God .
, and Duma was with God,
Here we have got that either Duma is God , duMa need to be with God ...
let`s put at on this way .
This part of sentence request one more Word , one more Gods tittle what will be the same as tittle Ma is for her self .
So, we add duMa to MaMa ,and we will write on the way should it be .
MaMa + duMa
and Duma was with God
and duMa was with MaMa
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Let's say we have "The Three-One God" formula.
I prefer this formula as part of my theses
Ma+Ma+Ma
where first two Ma+Ma are =Make or dualistic form of Mother + Mother and the third Ma "coming" ,duMa .
DuMa with it's two meanings of -
thinking and
-the word
This :
|` + |` + |`
Ma + Ma + Ma
Ma+Ma=MaMa
MaMa+ Ma
could be a base for The Word concept at this way :
Ma+Ma + du Ma
or
MaMaduMa*
All of that together as kind of *MaMaDuma concept provided in feminine gender,feather than Theology,its equal adopted as masculine form
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