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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    So, once more
    We have not connection at these languages .Why and how come not to ?
    Lets move forward.


    Now lets put at this way

    All around the Globe not only Mediterranean Ma mean Mother ?

    he very first ever recorded name/tittle for God is the word Ma ?
    His symbol is the one above

    |`- God..
    All of archaeologist will agree that this is the very first word for God.
    All of the linguistics will agree that this is the letters used for spelling of the word for God.
    But none of them will say that these are letters for describing of God at femine form.as Her ,or as Mother


    As far as we know for those ancient times two things must to be pointed :
    - matriarchy as kind of religious form and
    - cult of maternity
    According to those facts we must to have a bit of different description
    |` Goddess instead of |` God
    and Her very first recorded and shortest as well form of Ma
    So we certainly have
    | -consonant or "M"
    `-vowel or "a" joined together as the very first word
    |`= Ma

    "Make" in many other languages means many other things except mother..."
    That is quite correct , but claim I am having is that Make as a word has got its root at the word Mama

    As neologism of the word
    Makedonia or
    Make+Don+ia ,
    Make is neologism for it self built up with joining of two words Ma+Ma or Mama.
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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    If we remind our selves Greeks are having this explanations over Macedonian name meaning
    They are mostly claiming that Macedonia means
    -tall, long and highlander

    Greeks are having an enter for explanation of theirs claims that name of Macedonia derived from the Indo-European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender' (attested in Homer, and recorded by Hesychius of Alexandria as a Doric word meaning "large"), or makros ('long, large'), as well as related words in other Indo-European languages. It is commonly explained as having originally meant 'the tall ones' or 'highlanders'.8 ..."

    But when we have a type of little star symbol presented at the word as this one * named as asterix at the words top ,meaning that is about the guess. Guess what need to be verified.
    Have a look one more time .
    "European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender'.."
    Focus is at the word mak,presented at this way *mak-
    here are some more examples were mak as a root does NOT matches Make with the meaning what I am pointing to all of you, including the author of this clip .

    It is from analysis of Julius Pokorny

    "mak- 'skin, leather bag'

    Indo-European Reflexes:

    English
    Old English: maga
    Middle English: maw
    English: maw stomach: where food goes when swallowed


    W-Germanic
    Old High German: mago n maw
    N-Germanic
    Old Norse: maGi n.masc maw
    Baltic
    Lithuanian: maKis n.masc purse
    Masedonian meV n. meshe .." 9

    Lets compare Greek’s given meaning with some of Mediterranean languages:
    Arabic :Tall, long, highlander -Tawil,Tawil,Reefiy;
    Catalan:Tall, long , highlander Alt;llarg;gent de la muntanya;
    Spanish:Tall,long, highlander -Alto;Largo;montaniero;...
    Italian :Tall, long, highlander - alto, lungo,montanaro..

    We have not connection at these languages , and we have to ask ourselves what about Greek mentioning and argumentation of process of spreading of Greek language and culture all over an area ?
    We can not see , either the same ,either similar meaning at these languages as impact what could have remained at all .
    Same with Sanskrit language successor or Hindi.
    Over they at Hindi
    meanings for
    tall, long, highlander are : lamba, lambe, pahaadee.


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    Ref:
    8- Μακεδονία, Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, on Perseus
    Macedonia, Online Etymology Dictionary
    Harper, Douglas. "Online Etymology Dictionary".
    9 Julius Pokorny "Indogermanisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch"(Bern, 1959). P.696, РП 698, p.730.
    links:



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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Over possible meaning and origin of Macedonian name

    At this way observing we could have search over possible meaning and possible origin Macedonia as a name .

    To do that firstly a bit of preface:

    We are doing it having an methodology as helpful tool .
    Methodology is named as comparative methodology .
    • Comparative methodology

    Comparative method In linguistics,is a technique for studying the development of languages by performing a feature-by-feature comparison of two or more languages, as opposed to the method of internal reconstruction, which analyzes the internal development of a single language over time.
    Ordinarily both methods are used together to reconstruct prehistoric phases of languages, to fill in gaps in the historical record of a language, to discover the development of phonological, morphological, and other linguistic systems, and to confirm or refute hypothesized relationships between languages.
    The comparative method was developed over the 19th century. Key contributions were made by the Danish scholars Rasmus Rask and Karl Verner and the German scholar Jacob Grimm. The first linguist to offer reconstructed forms from a proto-language was August Schleicher, in his Compendium der vergleichenden Grammatik der indogermanischen Sprachen, originally published in 1861.
    .. Subjectivity of the reconstruction The reconstruction of unknown proto-languages is inherently subjective. In the Proto-Algonquian example above, the choice of *m as the parent phoneme is only likely, not certain. It is conceivable that a Proto-Algonquian language with *b in those positions split into two branches, one which preserved *b and one which changed it to *m instead; and while the first branch only developed into Arapaho, the second spread out wider and developed into all the other Algonquian tribes. It is also possible that the nearest common ancestor of the Algonquian languages used some other sound instead, such as *p, which eventually mutated to *b in one branch and to *m in the other. Since reconstruction involves many of these choices, some linguists prefer to view the reconstructed features as abstract representations of sound correspondences, rather than as objects with a historical time and place. The existence of proto-languages and the validity of the comparative method is verifiable in cases where the reconstruction can be matched to a known language, which may only be known as a shadow in the loanwords of another language. For example Baltic-Finnic languages such as Finnish have borrowed many words from an early stage of Germanic, and the shape of the loans matches the forms that have been reconstructed for Proto-Germanic. Finnish kuningas 'king' and kaunis 'beautiful' match the Germanic reconstructions *kuningaz and *skauniz(>German König 'king', schön 'beautiful'). -7
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    Source
    7-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_method#cite_note-64
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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    So my amateurism is making this conclusion :


    In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was the Word or duMA , and the word was when we remind that our first ever told ..
    word was Mama

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Don for rest of elements
    Don - W+Don -Wodon -Voda -Water
    Don
    d-g
    Gon*-O+Gon-Ogon -Fire

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Duma for Don
    when
    m shift to n

    Duma
    m->n
    Duna

    Dona



    Don standing for God


    A Don ai-Hebrew
    Deus-Latin
    Deus, -Portugal
    Dios-Spanish

    Dieu-French~


    Dio, idolo-Italian
    Diyos-(lat inf),

    D->T-TH
    Theos or Θεόs-Greek

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Duma standing for root of tittle for God world wide


    Dumnezeu-Romanian~*Dumne-Duma
    Juma la -Finnish~*D+juma~*Djumala~*Duma
    Dduw, nuw, Celi, Dofydd, celi, cheli, geli, ngheli-Welsh

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Duma standing for four elements at Macedonian


    Duma for the Earth

    D->dz

    While reconstruction make from PIE via the word *dhghom where compared with :
    Latin hum-us, old Macedonian zemlja
    Litvanian žem-ė
    Avestinian zam
    Greek kham-aí leading to *ghom-/*ghem , expanding trough Greek khthōn, gen. khthonós
    Sans kšam-
    Hetitian tekan, gen. tagnas,compat..` tagan ‘

    Trough all of it ,already reconstructed word should be *ghðom-, with *ghð initial what lead to Greek khth and Sans. kš.
    Further assume that the sound reduction from *ghð to *gh does make very first sounding group for a lott of I.E. linguists
    Theirs another group of IE linguists what *ghð will take out of *ghz as second sounding group.
    And we will follow this second sounds *gh. -> *ghð ->*ghz, observing trough D-Dz sound

    Adding this letter transformation
    at the word Duma we could have :

    Duma
    Dz um æ
    Dzem æ* ->Zem æ ->Zemia ->zemja the Earth

    Could you see similarity with the Goddesses of Semele or Cybele ?
    Thus because MakeDon under letter means Earth Mother

    Over letter Dz ( Ѕ ) in Macedonian have to explain that prove we have is at the latest Macedonian reformer and his Grammar of Macedonian Language where he is paving over that instead of dialectical Dzemia ( Ѕемја) in use will be word Zemja (Земја ) as well as for the word edzero will be ezero, Lake , solza instead od soldzi tears ...and so on...6
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    ref:
    6-Blaze Koneski," Macedonian literature language Grammar part I and II ", Skopje 1976 ..page 111
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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.…

    And God said, and it happened .God all has done with his Word .
    And Make pro -Duma and it happened . What is that all things ?

    The answer is four elements

    At English that could sound at this way
    Using the word Terra
    Terra - The Earth
    Terra -Water
    Terra - air
    Terra - Fire

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    2 He was in the beginning with God.


    Second requirement
    multiplication for the word God gave making equality explaining that duMa was in the beginning with Make

    , and The Word was with God,
    analyzing via previously changes will say that been done at this way

    Duma was with MaMa
    or
    MaMa is with duMa
    or
    Make is with DuMa

    at the same way as
    Ma is with Terra - Mother
    or
    Pa is with Terra -Padre- Father

    Difference is that Terra does not stand more than for Earth

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    From Make to Bog

    examples of word changes in Macedonian languages are in the word standing for gibberish

    For letter m->b shift

    Mrmori mutters
    Brbori blabbing

    or
    Mekanje
    Bekenje as domestic onomatopoeia

    Make means Mother
    m->b

    Bake*

    another m->b changes

    SeMele / CyBelle

    The Bacchæ's Chorus tells us that the timbrel, the flat drum, of Dionysos comes from the Mother --- that is, Kybele. Dionysos' connection with the Mother and with His Mother Semele and with females in general point to the OLD religion of Mother and Child.






    Changes of M, esp. in dialects:

    2. into B,
    as Mεμβράς ,Bεμβράς; Bροτός, Aeol. Mορτός ( v.άμβροτος fin.) and άBροτάξομεν for (from άMαρτάνω) ; μολєίν aor. of. βλώσκω ; κυBєρνήτης , Aeol. κυMєρνήτης ...3
    Next shift is with K -> G letters
    Examples ar at the words standing for Istar ... Istar is Veligden , because is Great day Velik day
    Velikday
    Veligden
    change of k-g

    I. κ is near akin to γ,χ.,differing only in its harder pronunciation; hence, the older Att. changed χνόος γναπτω ρευχω,into κνοος κναπτω : so in Ion. χιτων became κιθων ,βεχομαι βεκομαι,βατραχος βατρακος,χυτρα κυθρη,etc.; soγονυ (cf. προχνυ) is akin to our knee; cf.Lob.P.HRYN.173, 307. ….4
    From here we can see that at word γναπτω κναπτω there is ancient k-g change records ,as well noted at previouses pages at the same lexicon ,given under the letter Γ
    as ….
    IV.also with κ, γναπτω κναπτω ....5

    Over
    K-G-changes into Macedonian
    VeliK den
    VeliGden -Istar

    or
    kukuriKu
    KukuriGu


    Bake*
    k->g
    BaGe
    Baga
    Bog

    or from feminine tittle of Her up to masculine tittle of Him

    Make - Mother
    Bog - Father

    English analogy could be seen at the words
    Mother from Ma Terra up to
    Father from Pa Terra



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    Ref.

    3-Henry George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.953


    4- George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.750
    5- George Liddell and Robert Scott “Greek-English Lexicon” ,London,1896… page.306
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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    From MaMa to MakE

    Indeed I am so fare missing a bridging in between these two words , but some how I am "breathing behind theirs neck"
    Skipping what I am missing ,I am moving forward.My country name is Makedonija or Macedonia .Splitting this name we have two words as ground for neologism .
    Make + Don or Mace Don

    Word Make
    It does means Mother , and because we have letter E ending we have enter that is about word Mama
    Ма+Ма = >МакЕ
    and it is about word mother Мајка Мајка meaning Goddesses , expressed as feminine
    Word standing for God in Macedonian is Bog or Бог and it is expressed as masculine .

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    In Macedonian language
    Mama is as elsewhere singular expressed word .
    but from sing, we will match its dual form at this splitting way.
    Mama- sing.
    Ma+Ma = pl.
    _____
    1+1 = 2
    Dual as more then one and less than three at Macedonian language is always presented with letter E at the word ends.
    Examples for parallel today are the words
    раце -race - hands
    нозе -noze -legs
    Always letter e as words ending

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Second requirement
    multiplication for the word God .

    , and Duma was with God,

    Here we have got that either Duma is God , duMa need to be with God ...

    let`s put at on this way .
    This part of sentence request one more Word , one more Gods tittle what will be the same as tittle Ma is for her self .
    So, we add duMa to MaMa ,and we will write on the way should it be .

    MaMa + duMa

    and Duma was with God

    and duMa was with MaMa

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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
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    Let's say we have "The Three-One God" formula.
    I prefer this formula as part of my theses
    Ma+Ma+Ma
    where first two Ma+Ma are =Make or dualistic form of Mother + Mother and the third Ma "coming" ,duMa .
    DuMa with it's two meanings of -
    thinking and
    -the word

    This :
    |` + |` + |`
    Ma + Ma + Ma
    Ma+Ma=MaMa
    MaMa+ Ma

    could be a base for The Word concept at this way :
    Ma+Ma + du Ma
    or
    MaMaduMa*


    All of that together as kind of *MaMaDuma concept provided in feminine gender,feather than Theology,its equal adopted as masculine form

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