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  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 78

    So my amateurism is making this conclusion :

    In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was the Word or duMA , and the word was when we remind that our first ever told ..
    word was Mama


    • Goce Homer MakeDonski
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 78

      Over possible meaning and origin of Macedonian name

      At this way observing we could have search over possible meaning and possible origin Macedonia as a name .

      To do that firstly a bit of preface:

      We are doing it having an methodology as helpful tool .
      Methodology is named as comparative methodology .
      • Comparative methodology

      Comparative method In linguistics,is a technique for studying the development of languages by performing a feature-by-feature comparison of two or more languages, as opposed to the method of internal reconstruction, which analyzes the internal development of a single language over time.
      Ordinarily both methods are used together to reconstruct prehistoric phases of languages, to fill in gaps in the historical record of a language, to discover the development of phonological, morphological, and other linguistic systems, and to confirm or refute hypothesized relationships between languages.
      The comparative method was developed over the 19th century. Key contributions were made by the Danish scholars Rasmus Rask and Karl Verner and the German scholar Jacob Grimm. The first linguist to offer reconstructed forms from a proto-language was August Schleicher, in his Compendium der vergleichenden Grammatik der indogermanischen Sprachen, originally published in 1861.
      .. Subjectivity of the reconstruction The reconstruction of unknown proto-languages is inherently subjective. In the Proto-Algonquian example above, the choice of *m as the parent phoneme is only likely, not certain. It is conceivable that a Proto-Algonquian language with *b in those positions split into two branches, one which preserved *b and one which changed it to *m instead; and while the first branch only developed into Arapaho, the second spread out wider and developed into all the other Algonquian tribes. It is also possible that the nearest common ancestor of the Algonquian languages used some other sound instead, such as *p, which eventually mutated to *b in one branch and to *m in the other. Since reconstruction involves many of these choices, some linguists prefer to view the reconstructed features as abstract representations of sound correspondences, rather than as objects with a historical time and place. The existence of proto-languages and the validity of the comparative method is verifiable in cases where the reconstruction can be matched to a known language, which may only be known as a shadow in the loanwords of another language. For example Baltic-Finnic languages such as Finnish have borrowed many words from an early stage of Germanic, and the shape of the loans matches the forms that have been reconstructed for Proto-Germanic. Finnish kuningas 'king' and kaunis 'beautiful' match the Germanic reconstructions *kuningaz and *skauniz(>German König 'king', schön 'beautiful'). -7
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      • Goce Homer MakeDonski
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 78

        If we remind our selves Greeks are having this explanations over Macedonian name meaning
        They are mostly claiming that Macedonia means
        -tall, long and highlander

        Greeks are having an enter for explanation of theirs claims that name of Macedonia derived from the Indo-European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender' (attested in Homer, and recorded by Hesychius of Alexandria as a Doric word meaning "large"), or makros ('long, large'), as well as related words in other Indo-European languages. It is commonly explained as having originally meant 'the tall ones' or 'highlanders'.8 ..."

        But when we have a type of little star symbol presented at the word as this one * named as asterix at the words top ,meaning that is about the guess. Guess what need to be verified.
        Have a look one more time .
        "European root *mak-, meaning 'long' or 'slender'.."
        Focus is at the word mak,presented at this way *mak-
        here are some more examples were mak as a root does NOT matches Make with the meaning what I am pointing to all of you, including the author of this clip .

        It is from analysis of Julius Pokorny

        "mak- 'skin, leather bag'

        Indo-European Reflexes:

        Old English: maga
        Middle English: maw
        English: maw stomach: where food goes when swallowed

        Old High German: mago n maw
        Old Norse: maGi n.masc maw
        Lithuanian: maKis n.masc purse
        Masedonian meV n. meshe .." 9

        Lets compare Greek’s given meaning with some of Mediterranean languages:
        Arabic :Tall, long, highlander -Tawil,Tawil,Reefiy;
        Catalan:Tall, long , highlander Alt;llarg;gent de la muntanya;
        Spanish:Tall,long, highlander -Alto;Largo;montaniero;...
        Italian :Tall, long, highlander - alto, lungo,montanaro..

        We have not connection at these languages , and we have to ask ourselves what about Greek mentioning and argumentation of process of spreading of Greek language and culture all over an area ?
        We can not see , either the same ,either similar meaning at these languages as impact what could have remained at all .
        Same with Sanskrit language successor or Hindi.
        Over they at Hindi
        meanings for
        tall, long, highlander are : lamba, lambe, pahaadee.


        8- Μακεδονία, Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, on Perseus
        Macedonia, Online Etymology Dictionary
        Harper, Douglas. "Online Etymology Dictionary".
        9 Julius Pokorny "Indogermanisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch"(Bern, 1959). P.696, РП 698, p.730.

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        • Goce Homer MakeDonski
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 78

          So, once more
          We have not connection at these languages .Why and how come not to ?
          Lets move forward.

          Now lets put at this way

          All around the Globe not only Mediterranean Ma mean Mother ?

          he very first ever recorded name/tittle for God is the word Ma ?
          His symbol is the one above

          |`- God..
          All of archaeologist will agree that this is the very first word for God.
          All of the linguistics will agree that this is the letters used for spelling of the word for God.
          But none of them will say that these are letters for describing of God at femine Her ,or as Mother

          As far as we know for those ancient times two things must to be pointed :
          - matriarchy as kind of religious form and
          - cult of maternity
          According to those facts we must to have a bit of different description
          |` Goddess instead of |` God
          and Her very first recorded and shortest as well form of Ma
          So we certainly have
          | -consonant or "M"
          `-vowel or "a" joined together as the very first word
          |`= Ma

          "Make" in many other languages means many other things except mother..."
          That is quite correct , but claim I am having is that Make as a word has got its root at the word Mama

          As neologism of the word
          Makedonia or
          Make+Don+ia ,
          Make is neologism for it self built up with joining of two words Ma+Ma or Mama.
          Last edited by Goce Homer MakeDonski; 03-30-2016, 03:53 PM.


          • Goce Homer MakeDonski
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 78

            Lets check symbolism situation for a while

            If first recorded word is |` or Г
            recorded as plural as well like
            |` + |` + |`
            Г + Г + Г
            Ma + Ma + Ma
            If Ma means Goddess
            then what about Goddesses symbol ?
            Very first recorded symbol of Ma is her vulva or .Pronounced again as Ma.
            If we observed from this letter symbol mixing angle than we could have possible situations of
            Г +
            Ma+ Ma
            Last edited by Goce Homer MakeDonski; 03-30-2016, 11:48 AM.


            • Goce Homer MakeDonski
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 78

              At Hindi
              This is the word standing for Mama
              माँ or Mām̐
              And it so , and no one could say that Mām̐ is not shorten from Mama.
              Why ?
              Because Mām̐ is Mamas shorten form .

              And it is Mama because here are two symbols joined together as one
              माँ = two symbols
              First one is Г
              Second one is so called fish symbol .
              So we have
              माँ = 1 + 1
              माँ = Г +

              - is rotated so called fishy symbol.
              Г is rotated word


              • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 78

                When we have this Hindi comparing ,according by meaning we will noted
                that under the letter Makedonija means Earth Mother.
                Thus because Make -Mother and Donia -Earth

                Google translate results are coming forward when we have "World of Mother" search what match with Makedonia .
                And we do have these results because World of Mother as epithet does standing for Earth Mother .
                If we again remind ourselves for our planet tittles we see that they are>
                Planet , The World, and Earth .Earth as Planet Earth or as Earth Mother.
                Earth Mother as one of the Ma goddesses titling .


                • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 78

                  On line translator checking

         at the present will provide us this results
                  When we will type words on English : World of Mother we will read ,at Hindi मां की दुनिया
                  ,and with Latin orthography as : maan kee duniya.
                  World of Mother
                  Translate from: English
                  Translate into: Hindi
                  maan kee duniya ,

                  Today is Wednesday 30.03.2016.

                  I have,I wanna to indicate that earlier at Hindi translation results we read were presented at this way:

                  But earlier we were having
                  year 2010
        |hi| World of Mother

                  :World of Mother

                  Translate from: English
                  Translate into: Hindi

                  English to Hindi translation
                  माँ की दुनिया
                  (listed to this translation )
                  Mām̐ kī duniyā
                  माँ की दुनिया with Hindi alphabet
                  Mām̐ kī duniyā with Latin orthography
                  That's from 2010 recorded results

                  As you can note it is a difference here at the part of Latin presentation

                  earlier we had
                  Mām̐ kī duniyā
                  Or we read that instead of
                  now days is
                  and instead of
                  we have got

                  Shell we ask why it is as it is ?
                  And to whom we have to congrats because of it ?
                  But ones is for sure
                  Always it will be माँ की दुनिया .
                  Last edited by Goce Homer MakeDonski; 03-30-2016, 12:31 PM.


                  • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 78

                    Lets move forward

                    The pre-Christian history of the fish symbol:

                    The fish symbol has been used for millennia worldwide as a religious symbol associated with the Pagan Great Mother Goddess. It is the outline of her vulva. The fish symbol was often drawn by overlapping two very thin crescent moons. One represented the crescent shortly before the new moon; the other shortly after, when the moon is just visible. The Moon is the heavenly body that has long been associated with the Goddess, just as the sun is a symbol of the God.

                    The link between the Goddess and fish was found in various areas of the ancient world:
                    # In China, Great Mother Kwan-yin often portrayed in the shape of a fish
                    # In India, the Goddess Kali was called the "fish-eyed one"
                    # In Egypt, Isis was called the Great Fish of the Abyss
                    # In Greece the Greek word "delphos" meant both fish and womb. The word is derived from the location of the ancient Oracle at Delphi who worshipped the original fish goddess, Themis. The later fish Goddess, Aphrodite Salacia, was worshipped by her followers on her sacred day, Friday. They ate fish and engaging in orgies. From her name comes the English word "salacious" which means lustful or obscene. Also from her name comes the name of our fourth month, April. In later centuries, the Christian church adsorbed this tradition by requiring the faithful to eat fish on Friday - a tradition that was only recently abandoned.
                    # In ancient Rome Friday is called "dies veneris" or Day of Venus, the Pagan Goddess of Love.
                    # Throughout the Mediterranean, mystery religions used fish, wine and bread for their sacramental meal.
                    # In Scandinavia, the Great Goddess was named Freya; fish were eaten in her honor. The 6th day of the week was named "Friday" after her.
                    # In the Middle East, the Great Goddess of Ephesus was portrayed as a woman with a fish amulet over her genitals.

                    The fish symbol "was so revered throughout the Roman empire that Christian authorities insisted on taking it over, with extensive revision of myths to deny its earlier female-genital meanings...Sometimes the Christ child was portrayed inside the vesica, which was superimposed on Mary's belly and obviously represented her womb, just as in the ancient symbolism of the Goddess." 9 Another author writes: "The fish headdress of the priests of Ea [a Sumero-Semitic God] later became the miter of the Christian bishops." 10

                    The symbol itself, the eating of fish on Friday and the association of the symbol with deity were all taken over by the early Church from Pagan sources. Only the sexual component was deleted.

                    And does this symbol have something to do with the Word Ma ,it's origin and possible meaning?
                    Of course it does
                    Lets see it from different angle.

                    Well before Christianity, the fish symbol was known as "the Great Mother," a pointed oval sign, the "vesica piscis" or Vessel of the Fish. "Fish" and "womb" were synonymous terms in ancient Greek,"delphos." Its link to fertility, birth, feminine sexuality and the natural force of women was acknowledged also by the Celts, as well as pagan cultures throughout northern Europe. Eleanor Gaddon traces a "Cult of the Fish Mother" as far back as the hunting and fishing people of the Danube River Basin in the sixth millennium B.C.E. Over fifty shrines have been found throughout the region which depict a fishlike deity, a female creature who "incorporates aspects of an egg, a fish and a woman which could have been a primeval creator or a mythical ancestress..11


                    9. B.G. Walker, "The Woman's Encyclopaedia of Myths and Secrets", Harper & Row, San Francisco CA (1983), Page 313-314
                    10. J.C. Cooper, op cit, Page 15.
                    11. Morn Du Toit,"Blind Faith"2008,Quest for the truth about Christianity, ISBN-13 978-1-8479964-0-4 page... 171
                    Internet source

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                    • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 78


                      At last
                      What will happend if we will make a combination of these two different Ma Goddesses pictographic scripts?


                      May then we could explained Hebrew's EL

                      Hebrew: = El (God).

                      So here we could have:
                      EL=MaMa or Mama

                      Internet source:


                      • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 78

                        At the word Elohim , all linguistics from all around will agree that it is about word given as plural.
                        Because suffix - im does represented plurals at theirs language.
                        So we have got
                        Elohim =

                        EL + plural =Elonim

                        We have to account if we wanna prove that plural is here because of some reasons.
                        Reasons could be explained if we do the enumeration .
                        We are doing it on this way
                        E+L = plural
                        Thus because
                        E+L =plural
                        1+1= plural

                        And here we go again

                        Because we have got
                        God and His symbol .
                        Same as with Hindy where
                        God and His symbol appeared


                        • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2016
                          • 78

                          Г + ﻻ


                          L + E
                          L is rotated Г and
                          Г is as pointing was |` - Goddess or Ma
                          Where E having its root at rotated ﻻ symbol .

                          Now Alpha as symbol is rotated womb symbol as well .
                          Such a powerful is this so called
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                          • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 78

                            Now, Alpha as symbol is rotated womb symbol as well .

                            Such a powerful is this so called

                            pre-Christian fish symbol ,
                            what shows us something much more,and much bigger

                            Again from different angles observed ,as its about to claim

                            I am the First


                            the Last one

                            I am who I am
                            I am the only one
                            I am
                            I am
                            I am
                            I am
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                            • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 78

                              Hebrew: = El (God).

                              So here we could have:
                              EL=MaMa or Mama

                              Internet source:


                              • Goce Homer MakeDonski
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 78

                                If we compare with a far East and China writing system we can noted that :

                                The Chinese word zhu - 主 - zhŭ meaning : master, main, to be in
                                charge of, God, host, hostess, ..13

                                owner, primary…

                                How we have to analyse ?

                                We have one word with several different meanings .

                                Shall we ignore meaning of God ,and recognise only all of the rest of whole
                                lots ?

                                And why to do that?

                                Is it “because we would like to see things so “ enough ?

                                主 and |`|`|`

                                Such a meaning similarity , and such an near by symbolical orthography .

                                主 and |`|`|`
                                God and God
                                And everything based at NO “spreading influence of Greek culture over
                                the non-Greek peoples that were conquered by Alexander
                                the Great…”



                                主 ( zhu / zhŭ ) (English translation: "master") as Chinese character including stroke order, Pinyin phonetic script, pronunciation in Mandarin, example sentence and English meaning
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