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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15660

    I have never believed the MPO supported a name change.
    I am equally positive their leadership do not accept the Macedonian ethnicity.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Makedonska_Kafana
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2642

      Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
      I have never believed the MPO supported a name change.
      I am equally positive their leadership do not accept the Macedonian ethnicity.
      RTG, not long ago I asked Andrea that very question and she told me that she is a Macedonian not Bulgarian including a difference in languages. No, other past MPO president would say that and you should understand she is nothing like they were in the past - Macedonians are Bulgarians.

      I will not defend the MPO only to say they've changed since the days of their dictators from Fort Wayne, Indiana.
      Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 09-09-2010, 08:39 PM.
      http://www.makedonskakafana.com

      Macedonia for the Macedonians

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15660

        Originally posted by Makedonska_Kafana View Post
        RTG, not long ago I asked Andrea that very question and she told me that she is a Macedonian not Bulgarian including a difference in languages. No, other past MPO president would say that and you should understand she is nothing like they were in the past - Macedonians are Bulgarians.
        She needs to be asked some simple questions:

        - Does the MPO believe the Macedonian ethnicity exists?
        - Does the MPO believe the Macedonian ethnicity came from an earlier Bulgarian ethnic/national identity?
        - Why did the MPO change the ethnic description for the UMD/MPO collaboration such that "Macedonian" on its own was not deemed appropriate?
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Bratot
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2855

          On the other hand I don't really think those questions are needed, it's too damn clear.
          The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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          • Makedonska_Kafana
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2642

            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            She needs to be asked some simple questions:

            - Does the MPO believe the Macedonian ethnicity exists?
            - Does the MPO believe the Macedonian ethnicity came from an earlier Bulgarian ethnic/national identity?
            - Why did the MPO change the ethnic description for the UMD/MPO collaboration such that "Macedonian" on its own was not deemed appropriate?
            RTG, I'll ask her; however, I doubt if her answers would change the views of that organization.

            George Mladenoff is a PERFECT example of the past MPO and he was kicked out years ago and now spews his Bulgarian propaganda on the internet pretending to be the "Makedonska Tribune" newspaper.
            Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 09-10-2010, 07:22 AM.
            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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            • TrueMacedonian
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 3823




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              • Makedonska_Kafana
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2642

                In the late 1800's and up until 1912 there were many more Macedonians in North America then those claiming to be ethnic Greek. People who wanted to be Greek stayed in Greece until the end of the civil war 1946-49 and then even they began to depart a country with little to no future.

                Not much has changed in Greece the last 100 years and that is the fault of the Greek Orthodox Church aka the government.

                Check the Ellis Island records before 1913 and see how many claimed they were Greek and how many said they were Macedonian - Turkish. I would guess the Greeks were forced and beaten to write that down? How ancient are they, 100 years or less?
                Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 09-10-2010, 01:36 PM.
                http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3823


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                  • TRAVOLTA
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 504

                    1. Application to the Russian Emperor of Serbian, Macedonian, Bulgarian and Vlach settlers in Vojvodina for emmigration to Russia.



                    2. Edict of the Russian Empress Elisabeth allowing Bulgarians, Macedonians, Vlachs and other nations to settle in Russia.



                    3. December 24, 1751 Edict by the Russian Senate permittimg the settling of Bulgarians, Macedonians, Serbians and Vlachs.



                    4. Part of a Russian royal edict of January 11, 1752 granting the formation of brigades from the "orthodox Serbian, Macedonian, Bulgarian and Vlach peoples..."

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                    • makedonche
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3242

                      Travolta
                      Well done, fascinating stuff!
                      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                      • TrueMacedonian
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3823

                        Persecuted Macedonians in Russia





                        Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe By Robert Gellately

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                        • The LION will ROAR
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3231

                          Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                          It seems that more readers are making videos from material off of this forum

                          YouTube - MACEDONIAN IMIGRATION I AM MACEDONIAN
                          TrueMacedonian it's even gone to the Media now..
                          have a look from 5 sec and you can see MTO

                          US census from 1920 confirm Macedonian ethnic identity


                          The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                          • Bill77
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4545

                            Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
                            TrueMacedonian it's even gone to the Media now..
                            have a look from 5 sec and you can see MTO

                            US census from 1920 confirm Macedonian ethnic identity


                            http://gameteka.videoteka.us/video/H...ty.html?ref=nf
                            Wow great find Lion.

                            Not only is the MTO home page seen in this News real, but the Reporter mentions and gives credit to MTO or "Makedonska Vistina" to be exact.
                            Thank you Kanal 5

                            What Great advertising for the MTO.
                            I am so proud of all you contributors here on MTO and we are being noticed. It shows how important this Forum is and that we can make a difference to better our Macedonia in many aspects. :rmacedonia
                            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                            • julie
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 3869

                              Well done, fantastic. The MTO is global and our voice for the Macedonian cause is being heard.
                              Am so proud of the MTO
                              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                              • Dats
                                Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 182



                                St. Paul Globe 1904 June 19 Page 5

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