Documents of Macedonian Immigration

[TrueMacedonian]

Nice stuff gang. More stakes through the grk vampire heart.

[julie]

Cheers Pluto, welcome to the MTO

[Daskalot]

Here is the complete document:

[Daskalot]

Notes of interest:

[Bill77]

MACEDONIAN & BULGARIAN GRAVESTONES
IN TORONTO NECROPOLIS & CREMATORIUM

CHARLES DOBIE : LOCAL HISTORY
TORONTO, ONTARIO


What i want people to take note, is the dates of Birth and dates of Death.
They were all around the end of 19 century to the begining of the 20th century. Its a shame for Greeks the inscriptions were not altered on these stones.

Another thing to notice is the place of birth. I can't see Greece anywhere.

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cdobie/rgraves.htm

[Soldier of Macedon]

That would be a good idea Bratot. In fact, even better would be a more comprehensive collection that includes Macedonian military participation in the last couple of centuries that are specific to events, such as the Austro-Turkish wars, Russo-Turkish wars, Balkan Wars, WWI, WWII, etc.

[Daskalot]

Macedonians noted in a study on immigration to the Swedish city of Malmoe, 1973!

I found a very interesting book by accident when I was searching for material concerning us Macedonians in an old bookshop in Stockholm, Sweden.
The book is a research study on the immigration to the Swedish city of Malmö(Malmoe) and it was published in 1973.
We Macedonians are noted both by language and by ethnicity in the book.
Here are some examples, I will publish more later.

Title page.

IMMIGRANTS IN MALMÖ
by
Harald Swedner

Germans
Danes
Jews
Finns
Sudeten Germans
Poles
Hungarians
Greeks
Czechs
Croats Serbs Macedonians Slovenes
Turks
Portuguese
Icelanders

A research report from the Immigration commission
________
Stockholm 1973

Page 232.

Table 48. Number of immigrant student in Malmö's primary schools according to language affiliation and knowledge in Swedish as of the autumn semester 1972 1)

Language affiliation | proficiency in Swedish 1 2 3 4 5 | Sum 1-4| Sum 5 | Total | Average of the proficiency in Swedish |
____________
Albanian
Arabic
Armenian
Danish
English
Finnish
Greek
Icelandic
Italian
Chinese
Macedonian
Norwegian
Polish
Portugese
Romany
Serbocroatian
Slovene
Spanish
Czech
Turkish
German
Hungarian
French
Other
____________
Sum
____________
1) The basic documentation for this table has been provided by deputy principal Elisabet Einarsson at Malmö City schools. The scores in the table means that the students teacher has judged the student's proficiency in Swedish in the following manner:
1. Beginner in Swedish
2. Speaks and understands some
3. Manages passably - can make oneself understood but have difficulty expressing themselves correctly, understands simple everyday language
4. Speaks Swedish spontaneously, but have limited vocabulary and limited conceptual understanding
5. Masters Swedish as an average Swedish student

Source: "Invandrare i Malmö" by Harald Swedner, 1973, page 232.

Enjoy!

[Mygdon]

a little bit off-topic, sorry. but there is one thing i have been wondering about the scandinavic-german languages. they also use the "sk" as a grammatical ending for like "dansk".. "norsk".. "polsk" - same like in slavic languages. (except the additional "i" that we use).

[Soldier of Macedon]

Thanks for the source Daskalot.

Artemi, good question. Balto-Slavic does have some very old words that are connected to Germanic languages which may come from either a common source, interaction during the PIE period, or as a loan from one to the other.

[ajax]

Не е баш по темата, но бидејќи се однесува до македонската емиграција го постирам овде, за да не отварам нова тема.




Тоа е писмо од градоначалникот на Торонто до македонската заедница во градот во 1938 година, која не дозволила да биде истакнато бугарското знаме на нивната црква. Во писмото јасно е потврден идентитетот на македонскиот народ и мислам ќе биде добро да се презентира на страницата со документите.

[Bratot]

Daskale,

can we paste this whole article and maybe save it as pdf slide on the forum in case the link disappear in future?

Check it... I think it's useful explanation:

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/images_news/macedonia-paper.pdf

[Daskalot]

Daskale,

can we paste this whole article and maybe save it as pdf slide on the forum in case the link disappear in future?

Check it... I think it's useful explanation:

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/image...onia-paper.pdf

Thank you Bratot, I have saved the document and will post important passages from it in this thread.

[TrueMacedonian]

[Daskalot]

can it get any clearer than that?

The amount of documents that we have here on the MTO must melt the brain of every Greek propagandist......

[Makedonska_Kafana]

http://www.voanews.com/macedonian/news/Macedonian-VOA-Alusheff-MPO-102465504.html

Video on the right and MPO doesn't support a name change; however, they invited a person that does which doesn't help our cause. MPO, continues to make positive strides; however, they still have to make up their minds regarding the "Macedonian Question" so the rest of us can accept them.

UMD and MPO are very similar today, no name change but keep talks alive.

NOTE

Andrea Alushev, has been the ONLY normal MPO president since day one of that organization. ALL, the other's before her don't count!