Macedonian Sharplaninec

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  • Epirot
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 399

    #16
    IS that true Great ALexander and his army used this dog?
    IF OUR CHRONICLES DO NOT LIE, WE CALL OURSELVES AS EPIROTES!

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #17
      My dedo tells me the sharplanenac dog is one of the fiercest dogs in the world.He said in the mountains he has seen the dog rip the throat of a bear.THe teeth clench so much that nothing can release it as it bites on to the chunks of flesh.A lot of people have great respect for this dog.I would not be surprised if alexander used such a dog in his army.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • Soldier of Macedon
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 13675

        #18
        I have also heard the story about the sharplaninec being around during ancient Macedonian times, but not sure if there is anything written about it.
        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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        • Prolet
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 5241

          #19
          Wow a fantastic thread

          The Sharplaninec is one of my favorite Kucina, they are wanted in America and sell for up to $3000 for a puppy. They are a trademark of Macedonia, there is no better loyal dog then a Sharplaninec and its love and respect for its owner is amazing.

          They are very smart dogs and are used to defend cattle from the wolves high up in the mountains and other predators. They cant be choked by Pit Bulls because they got too much thick skin on their necks and it stretches out which makes it very difficult to choke them.

          They come from the Shar Planina regions and they are Macedonian Sheppard Dogs there is no disputing this, we all know that Albanians are not the settlers in Macedonia and Kosovo which makes their claims meaningless.

          As for the Bulgarian President Bojko Borisov giving a dog to Vladimir Vladimirovic Putin in Sofia, thats not a Sharplaninec even though it does look similar here is the footage on the clip.

          YouTube - A Dog's Heart: Pet lover Putin needs name for fluffy puppy
          МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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          • Daniel the Great
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1084

            #20
            They are very nice dogs and are also very large. I think there's people who bread and sell the Sharplaninec in Australia, it would be good to get one. It is no doubt a Macedonian bread of dog even though our neighbors claim and try steel the Sharplaninec along with our identity, name, history, culture and songs.

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            • Prolet
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 5241

              #21
              The winner of the Shara Cup which is a Ski Tournament is given a Sharplaninec, its actually one of the oldest Ski Tournaments in Europe.





              МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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              • The LION will ROAR
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 3231

                #22
                While the origins of the breed are obscured by history, it is believed by some that Šars' ancestry dates back to the time of Alexander The Great. It is also believed that the original mountain shepherd dog (based in the Mollos family) was cross bred with wolves during the Middle Ages to create the 'modern' Sar (certainly the modern Sar resembles a wolf in movement).

                Šarplaninac is one of rare dog breeds which can confront and take down a wolf or a bear.

                One of the interesting physical characteristics of the Sarplaninac are his unusually large teeth that set it apart from most dogs, further proving its old age of origin. Heavily-boned and muscular, the Sarplaninec has a very rich full top-coat, with an abundant dense undercoat, making it fully weatherproof and suited for an outside life. The breed can also work cattle and serve as a guard dog; it was bred and used as a military dog under Marshal Josip Broz Tito.

                Often described by the Macedonian peasants as that of a wolf, a bear and a dragon cursing the Gods in unison. The head is large, with a mastiffy muzzle and powerful jaws

                The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                • The LION will ROAR
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3231

                  #23
                  Alexander the Great and His Favorite Dog



                  Alexander the Great, who dominated, conquered, and created one of the largest empires in ancient history had a beloved dog by his side, named Peritas, who was a Molossian dog. Alexander was 11 years old when he got Peritas.* His dog was rumored to have battled an elephant and brought it to its knees. But Peritas greatest loyalty is in the story of how he saved Alexander the Great.* According to legend, Peritas defended Alexander when he was trapped by his enemies and his own soldiers were prevented from rescuing him. Leonnatus, who fought with Alexander hear Peritas barking and told the dog to run to Alexander.* The courageous dog ran through the soldiers and lurched at the enemies who hadjust wounded Alexander with a javelin.* Peritas attacked many of the men, which allowed Alexander’s soldiers to save him before he was wounded again. Peritas, as the story goes was wounded too, but did not survive, as he used his last breaths to put his head on Alexander’s lap.** Peritas name lives on forever in the city of Peritas, in India which Alexander the Great name for his beloved dog. The tomb of his dog and a statue depicting Peritas still exists at the entrance to the city. Alexander had many dogs, but Peritas was his favorite dog.
                  Dogology: PawPrints in History Famous and Legendary Dogs in History Historic Moments and Dogs Were There (Part I) Around the globe and through the span of time humans and dogs have shared a history that can be traced back tens of thousands...



                  Aristotle, who lived in 384-322 B.C, praises the Molossis dogs and tells us that they served as guardians of the herds, and distinguished themselves from all other dogs through there size and indomitable courage against wild animals.


                  Grattius, Roman poet, of the age of Augustus
                  Grattius, a contemporary of Ovid wrote ...
                  ...and "when serious work has come, when bravery must be shown, and the impetuous War-god calls in the utmost hazard, then you could not but admire the renowned Molossians so much."
                  Last edited by The LION will ROAR; 01-16-2011, 06:48 AM.
                  The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                  • The LION will ROAR
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3231

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Daniel the Great View Post
                    They are very nice dogs and are also very large. I think there's people who bread and sell the Sharplaninec in Australia, it would be good to get one. It is no doubt a Macedonian bread of dog even though our neighbors claim and try steel the Sharplaninec along with our identity, name, history, culture and songs.
                    Daniel there is afew in Melbourne that sell Sharplaninec's, a friend Of mine just got one from there not sure by who..will find out..

                    here is a photo of him

                    5 month old Macedonian Sarplaninac, Sharko

                    Here is a link from Melbourne..Serbian breeders
                    Southern Star Sharplaninec


                    Other links of Breeders in Macedonia

                    THE SHARPLANINEC BREEDING FARM "KORAB"


                    WELCOME TO " K E F " THE BEST BREEDER OF MACEDONIA



                    Sarplaninac-jozo


                    Breeding Farm "Grozdanoski”

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                    Last edited by The LION will ROAR; 01-16-2011, 06:07 AM.
                    The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                    • Daniel the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1084

                      #25
                      Thanks for the info TLwR.

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                      • Prolet
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5241

                        #26
                        There are also Beli Sharplaninci who are very good at looking after Sheep, they tend to blend in and when Wolves attack they are there and the attackers struggle to tell the difference between them.

                        Sharplaninci are only good in places where its cold, they tend to struggle in the warmer temperatures. There is a Sharplaninec at the Manastir in Donnybrook.
                        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                        • Daniel the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1084

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Prolet View Post
                          There is a Sharplaninec at the Manastir in Donnybrook.
                          Ye i'v seen that one a few times, it's very big and very alert.

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                          • lavce pelagonski
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1993

                            #28
                            There is a Sharplaninec at Donnybrook Her nam is Shara an amazing dog very smart an knows when you are taking pictures I'll post some soon.
                            Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.

                            Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов

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                            • The LION will ROAR
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3231

                              #29
                              [QUOTE]
                              Originally posted by Prolet View Post
                              There are also Beli Sharplaninci who are very good at looking after Sheep, they tend to blend in and when Wolves attack they are there and the attackers struggle to tell the difference between them.
                              Prolet, Here are some photo's of Beli Sharplanici guarding their Flock, as you can see they blend in well..



                              Last edited by The LION will ROAR; 01-16-2011, 06:41 AM.
                              The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                              • lavce pelagonski
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1993

                                #30
                                ops didnt see you Prolet you already posted. lol
                                Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.

                                Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов

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