Victor Friedman on the Macedonian language!

[Daskalot]

[Daniel the Great]

Very interesting by Victor friedman.
It is ridiculous how there still hasn't got official figures on the number of Macedonian speakers out side of Macedonia in the neighboring countries, as it says in the book Greece does not recognize any ethnic minority, Bulgaria thinks of the Macedonians in Bulgaria as Bulgarians, Albanians also do not recognize a Macedonian language nor do i think Serbia and Kosovo do.
It is amazing how much human rights problems we Macedonians have, that are not being solved just getting worse and worse.
It also says in the book there has a estimated 700,000 speakers of the Macedonian language out side of Macedonia, i think that is a pretty good estimate, but it means nothing when it is not even recognized.

[makedonche]

Daskalot
In Friedmans opening introduction he claims modern Macedonian and ancient macedonian are completely different in reference to what Alexander spoke. I have searched the forum briefly and can't find any detailed info on Ancient Macedonian - do you have any info or sources I can research/read?

[Soldier of Macedon]

I have an old article that is cited somewhere on one of the threads, I have been meaning to 'revamp' it a bit, will try to do so soon.

[Bill77]

Daskalot
In Friedmans opening introduction he claims modern Macedonian and ancient macedonian are completely different in reference to what Alexander spoke. I have searched the forum briefly and can't find any detailed info on Ancient Macedonian - do you have any info or sources I can research/read?

I don't think there is any evidence of what Alexander spoke only that he did speak his mother tongue "Macedonian" which was uninteligable to Greeks. So what was this Macedonian Language he spoke?

[sf.]

At a lecture given earlier this year, he stated that only few words are known that were Ancient Macedonian. The etymology of some of those words was IE, Greek of others, while another group had unknown etymology. He also stated that there is no evidence to suggest that Ancient Macedonian was Slavic.

[Soldier of Macedon]

He also stated that there is no evidence to suggest that Ancient Macedonian was Slavic.

I don't agree with that. There are a number of words that have an obvious connection, I guess he is either not prepared to investigate it further due to some pre-conceived notion about the 'Slavs', or he hasn't looked into it adequately enough.

By the way, I like your signature, a solid quote.

[DIMO]

friedman should worry about his own language, calling the modern macedonian language a south slavic language that had nothing to do with the ancient macedonians what an idiot. Its the macedonians the macedonians that educated the slavic tribes with macedonian culture, language and religon. The macedonians are the oldest people in the balkan, how can we be speaking a slavic language. This so called slavic language is rubbish, it is a macedonian language a macedonian alaphabet wich the macedonian brothers invented st kyrill and metodie, slav bullshit.

[TrueMacedonian]

friedman should worry about his own language, calling the modern macedonian language a south slavic language that had nothing to do with the ancient macedonians what an idiot. Its the macedonians the macedonians that educated the slavic tribes with macedonian culture, language and religon. The macedonians are the oldest people in the balkan, how can we be speaking a slavic language. This so called slavic language is rubbish, it is a macedonian language a macedonian alaphabet wich the macedonian brothers invented st kyrill and metodie, slav bullshit.

Dimo are you even a Macedonian? Or are you just an idiot?

[Soldier of Macedon]

This so called slavic language is rubbish, it is a macedonian language a macedonian alaphabet wich the macedonian brothers invented st kyrill and metodie, slav bullshit.

Dimo, the language of Cyril and Methodius was indeed a form of Macedonian, but it was called 'Slavic' by the Macedonian brothers. It's not correct to identify the term 'Slavic' as something specifically associated with people north of the Danube during the Middle Ages, nor is it correct to interpret 'Slavic' as something other than a linguistic group today.

[Prolet]

TM, Dimo reminds me alot of Dimo Hadzi Dimov LOL

[DIMO]

true macedonian, you can call me an idiot, but maybe your a true slav