Because we have storys and memory';s our grandfathers and parents still hold inside their hearts for what the hell they went through by your fucking greeks! My grandfather was a proud Macedonian and his brigade fought off the Greeks and Italians along with the Germans to keep Egej Free from tyrrans like your culture. My Dedo once and even my baba to this day told my father a greek general came into their villiages and claimed his villiage is now greek and that my grandfather and everyone else are either filty turks or Bulgarians. My grandfather walked up to that son of a bitch and told him to Yebej me nesme Grci and shot him in the fucking head! That is something you greeks failed to do is erase every memory from each one of us and one day the tables will turn.
Gruesome Image of beheaded Macedonian Brigands
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Originally posted by Agamoi Thytai View PostI don't deny that such kind of attrocities were commited in Greek civil war by the Greek army and Greek policemen againts Macedonian partizans (and Greek partizans as well).However are you sure that all these cut heads and corpses belong to Macedonians killed by Greeks?What is the proof?I also can upload a photo with corpses claiming they are Greek peasants slaughtered by Macedonian partizans in Greek civil war!Would you believe me?Take,for instance this photo that you have posted:
I don't know who did it and i don't accuse anyone in particular but these people have nothing to do with Macedonians.They are Greek members of EAM (a resistance organization controlled by KKE,the Greek Communist Party)!This photo is taken from an article of Greek wikipedia on the Civil War and especially on the so-called Dekemvriana (December events that took place in Athens on December 1944) when Greek communists demonstrating in the center of Athens were shot by policemen:
Take a closer look to the banners,all with Greek inscriptions,one reads ΚΡΕΜΑΛΑ Ο ΓΟΝΑΤΑΣ-EAM (Gallows for Gonatas-a right politician,perhaps a minister at that time)
http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%91%...ber-3-1044.jpg
Bill's grandfather was beheaded, my dedo's brother was beheaded, my uncle was tortured, my auntie was raped, fuck you for wating proof you piece of low life shit"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev
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Originally posted by julie View PostProof??? Fuck you
Bill's grandfather was beheaded, my dedo's brother was beheaded, my uncle was tortured, my auntie was raped, fuck you for wating proof you piece of low life shit"What high honour do the Macedonians deserve, who throughout nearly their whole lives are ceaselessly engaged in a struggle with the barbarians for the safety of the Greeks?"
Polybius, Histories, 9.35
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Onur, Soldier of Macedon
Most of these pictures come from or can also be found with captions in BulgarMak website which is anti-Greek and pro-Bulgarian.
For the picture of post#1 it says it's from Krushevo 1903 after Iliden uprising. The man (pictured with the heads) is Turk-Albanian (Muslim Albanian).
More severed heads here
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostTM and TLWR, where did you guys get the pics from?"What high honour do the Macedonians deserve, who throughout nearly their whole lives are ceaselessly engaged in a struggle with the barbarians for the safety of the Greeks?"
Polybius, Histories, 9.35
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Several of the heads most definetly do belong to Macedonians who have suffered from Greeks. The pictures may not give specific details about the deceased or the morons standing above them, but to deny that these sorts of atrocities took place and were inflicted on Macedonians is to deny the truth, and to deny the history of my people. Don't do it. A number of your people behaved like animals towards mine, don't defend it with some non-comparable counter-stories that pale in comparison. Greeks were doing this sort of thing to the Macedonians since the early 1900's. It happened in WWII, it happened in WWI, during the Balkan Wars, during the Macedonians' struggle for liberation - and it happened during the 1820's when your apparent ancestors were conjuring victory songs about rape and murder in the Morea. Nothing to be proud of. Plenty to be ashamed of.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Agamoi Thytai View PostI believe all what you say about your family members Tsulaki dear and may their souls RIP,but we are talking about the dead of these pictures in particular.I know you are enraged because you can't prove anything with them and futhermore cause I proved one is a blatant forgery,but hey,it's not my fault.
Originally posted by Agamoi Thytai View PostThey are Greek members of EAM a resistance organization controlled by KKE,the Greek Communist Party This photo is taken from an article of Greek wikipedia on the Civil War and especially on the so-called Dekemvriana (December events that took place in Athens on December 1944) when Greek communists demonstrating in the center of Athens were shot by policemen:
And whats so surprising about Macedonians travelling to Athens on this day? after all, there were many many Macedonians in horror camps outside of Macedonia such as Makronisos and Giaros. Are you going to deny this aswell with this geographical argument?
Originally posted by Agamoi Thytai View PostHowever are you sure that all these cut heads and corpses belong to Macedonians killed by Greeks?What is the proof? I also can upload a photo with corpses claiming they are Greek peasants slaughtered by Macedonian partizans in Greek civil war!Last edited by Bill77; 12-13-2010, 06:19 PM.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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Bill77,
They say that by the final stage of Greek Civil War, about half of the communist rebels were Macedonians. Still, the Battle of Athens and the Dekemvriana (December incidents) is only at the start of the War and has nothing to do with Macedonia.
The picture (under question) shows 2 of the 20-30 victims of December 3rd, 1944. They were random communist demonstrators that were shot by police snipers.
At that time, Communist Party of Greece, was powerful enough and had an unclear plan to take over power in Greece.
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Originally posted by Akzion View PostBill77,
They say that by the final stage of Greek Civil War, about half of the communist rebels were Macedonians.
There is no doubt there were Macedonian Communists before and the start of this civil war. There were some part of the communists that fought the Germans during ww2. And i would assume these Macedonians would have been around (and quite possibly in that December incident in Athens), demonstrating against the Nazi sympathizing government at the time. Also lets get this straight. The Majority of the Macedonians "by the final stages" did not care less about a political ideology. They grasped at the chance of an independent Macedonia. Thats what they fought for. Thats what the communists promised them if they sided with them against a common enemy.
Now there is no way of proving who the dead were (in that December incidents photo) . All i tried to do was argue against Agamoi Thytai excuse. He cant be sure there were no Macedonians in that photo.
But, the most important thing about that photo is, it depicts the brutality of the Fascist government. It also shows what type of democracy greece had where people could not gather and demonstrate. Its proof that fascism was rife in greece.
Originally posted by Akzion View PostThe picture (under question) shows 2 of the 20-30 victims of December 3rd, 1944. They were random communist demonstrators that were shot by police snipers.
Now......since you want to respond to questions directed at Agamoi Thytai, mabe you can answer to the other part of my post. AT seemed confused by who were the culprits that performed the beheadings.
Originally posted by Bill77Hey Sherlock, have a look at the clothing. Especially the uniforms those scum on horse back, are wearing. Its a give awayLast edited by Bill77; 12-13-2010, 10:42 PM.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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The greeks had the practice of ripping peoples eyes with forks while they were alive.Some of my relatives met this fate in the aegean macedonia & yes they were greeks that did it.So next time the macedonians will show no mercy to you we will do what you did to us an eye for an eye.
The greeks committed many attrocities on the macedonians & it'is still committing genocide on the people."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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TM had posted this before..
Massacre of Macedonians was the rule rather than the exception(1920)
The rule rather than the exception meaning that the massacres were the 'standard practice/operation' or the 'norm', as opposed to it happening occasionally or 'here and there'The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!
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