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What does it mean with : was the rule rather than the exception ?The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot -
It means that the massacres were the 'standard practice/operation' or the 'norm', as opposed to it happening occasionally or 'here and there' as isolated incidents.Last edited by Spartan; 11-19-2009, 05:35 PM.Comment
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“The Armenian-Macedonian alliance was to be sanctified in the summer of 1901. Near Adrionople (Edirne), a band of Armenian and Macedonian revolutionaries became embroiled in a battle with Turkish regular troops.” (Six were killed, and four prisoners were taken, evenly split between the Armenians and Macedonians, later hanged.)
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Macedonians in Odrinsko, Macedonians and Armenians in common action during Ottoman times, these citations are important for historical reference.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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Here is an article from March 24, 1902, about Macedonian cooperation with Armenians through Boris Sarafov, in which the latter is trying to rally support for an uprising in Macedonia.
In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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Here is the article for everyones reading pleasure.Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
Thank you SoM for providing it.
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No problem Daskale, I couldn't upload in imageshack before, thanks for putting it up. The riot between Albanians and Turks in Philates may be of some interest to Epirot and Onur.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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Some more info on the Armeno-Macedon cooperation;
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Amazing literature. Good work boys
"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse DelchevComment
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
These were just common incidents in the last ~50 years of Ottoman Empire.
Like the book quotes in the first msg, "According to western Europeans, Turks were yellow race and these lands was for white races only, like the new born Hellenes who were descendants of purest of white race aka ancient Greeks! Therefore, Turks had to be eliminated from there just to be replaced with western europeans as a ruler in Balkans. They spend unlimited money and resources to realize this at that times.
Ofc there was no such a rule to massacre Macedonians on any other society. This was just one of million lies to fasten the process of internal revolts. After the "Turkish problem" resolved at WW-1, then these same lies used again to bolster and secure the image of Turkish bugaboo among people. Also, i am sure if Turks would massacre all the Macedonians and others in Balkans, western europeans and Russians would be grateful to us because the local people always turned out to be a problem for them.
As for the cases in the bombings, terrorism and Albanian revolts; Both Albania and Macedonia was still belonged to the Ottoman Empire at 1901 and Turks was the governing authority and if someone bombs the central banks or kills 8 gendarmes like the case with Albanians, they would be sentenced to death if they get caught. As much as Albanians, Armenians and Macedonians had a right to revolt, the Turkish officers equally had a right to suppress these acts in return, for securing their 500+ years old authority in those places.
Same applies today as well. There is a death sentence in USA today and if someone bombs somewhere or kills 8 officers, then the criminals stands trial with death sentence. So, there is not much to discuss about it since this is a standard law procedure for any state.Last edited by Onur; 08-01-2010, 07:00 AM.Comment
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DENOUNCES APATHY AS TO ARMENIA AND MACEDONIA.; Speech by Anatole France -- He Says 300,000 Armenians Have Fallen by the Sultan's Orders.
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LONDON TIMES -- NEW YORK TIMES Special Cablegram.
March 19, 1903, Thursday
Page 8, 187 words
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In April 1909, Abdul-Hamid attempted to regain power with the assistance of reactionary forces. But the Macedonian army reoccupied the capital and deposed the Sultan. On this occasion the Armenians came out as one of the staunchest supporters of the new regime. Even in spite of the Cilician massacres of 1909, when more than 20,000 Armenians had been suddenly killed, the A. R. F. continued to co-operate loyally with the Young Turk authorities.
The loyalty was not in appearance only. The leading orientation in Armenian political circles was Ottomanism, which believed in forming a Federal Empire out of the historic Ottoman Empire, a Federation of Albanian, Arab, Armenian, Greek, Kurd, Lebanese Christian and Macedonian peoples. Every individual people were incapable of defending its national image and individual culture inside the Empire. In a federation under the Ottoman flag they were to create a powerful Empire in which everyone was to prosper freely according to its national genius and character.
Turkish nationalism and racism together with gradual antagonism towards the non-Turkish elements of the Empire, neutralized and even erazed the sense of Ottomanism. This tendency gave birth to a policy of Turkification by force and this in turn generated several revolts by the Druse, Arabs of Iraq and Palestine in 1910, Yemenites in 1911 and the Macedonians in 1912. The policy of Turkification was directed against the Arabs and in more stressed manner against the Armenians whose land geographically blocked the achievement of the dream of Pan-Turanism.
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Originally posted by Bratot View Post
"Citizens, taking into account the fate of the Armenians and Macedonians, not because they are Christians, but because they are people we seek to guarantee their welfare and to strengthen the general peace, full and complete execution of the Berlin agreement, which applies to Armenia and Macedonia."
- Anatole FranceThe purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - BratotComment
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The Congress of the F.R.A.D.
I "CONGRESS: Tillis, August-September 1892.
Preparation Islands Constitution and the Rules organisatkmnel: Centralized (authors Ch, Mikaelian. '/. Rostom and married).
II-CONGRESS: Tillis, April-June 1898.
Organization in Europe of the propaganda of the Armenian revolutionary struggle (Ch. Mikaelian is the responsible editor as a "Trochag" in Geneva). Approval of the Statute. Alliance with the Macedonian revolutionaries (Rostom travels in the Balkans).
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