Moody's downgrades Slovenia to 'junk' bond rating

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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15660

    Moody's downgrades Slovenia to 'junk' bond rating

    Slovenia abandoned an attempt to issue bonds and Moody's cut its debt rating to "junk", dealing a blow to the country's goal of healing its ailing state-owned banks and avoid following Cyprus into the euro zone's emergency room.


    Slovenia abandoned an attempt to issue bonds and Moody's cut its debt rating to "junk", dealing a blow to the country's goal of healing its ailing state-owned banks and avoid following Cyprus into the euro zone's emergency room.

    The move raises the prospect the tiny Alpine state of 2 million will have to ask its euro zone partners for a bailout as its mostly state-controlled banks struggle under the weight of bad loans worth around a fifth of the economy.

    The downgrade followed weeks of criticism from investors, European Union officials and analysts that Prime Minister Alenka Bratusek's government has been too slow revealing details of a bank clean up and austerity measures they say are required to shrink a budget deficit swollen by a double-dip recession.

    Earlier in the day, Ljubljana went to market and received $US6 billion in bids for five- and ten-year dollar denominated bonds with yield guidance of around 5 and 6.125 per cent, according to Thomson Reuters market service IFR.

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    But the Finance Ministry scuppered the deal, citing a looming ratings decision. Moody's Investor Service then downgraded Slovenia's rating two notches to Ba1, from Baa2, taking it into non-investment grade territory.

    "The Moody's downgrade is not a surprise and more downgrades can be expected until reforms are enforced," said Saso Stanovnik of investment firm Alta Invest.

    Moody's left the rating with a negative outlook, citing its troubled banking sector, deterioration in the government's balance sheet and uncertain funding prospects.

    The yield guidance of the abandoned bond offer was above the 5.7 per cent Slovenia paid to sell similar paper last year, a result of increasing market pressure since the chaotic bailout of Cyprus last month.

    The yield on Slovenia's benchmark 10-year bond rose to 5.948 per cent after the announcement, up by 0.078 percentage points since Tuesday morning and well above 4.77 per cent on March 15, the day before the Cyprus bailout deal.

    DETAILS LACKING

    Slovenia's refusal, alone among the European Union's ex-Communist eastern members, to put state companies into private hands helped it jump ahead of its peers in living standards but avoided painful economic restructuring.

    Its financial sector, dominated by state controlled or largely owned Nova Ljubljanska Banka, Nova KBM and Abanka Vipa, is choking on an estimated 7 billion euros in bad loans.

    Bratusek's month-old government has said it will reveal its reform plan on May 9 while privatisation plan is also expected early next month. She says Slovenia can deal with that problem on its own and has pledged to start moving non-performing loans to a "bad bank" by June.

    The government aims to recapitalise the banks with 900 million euros this year and aims to later sell at least one.

    The government is also due to announce privatisations in May, and austerity measures to trim the budget deficit that will include a 5 per cent cut this year in the public wage bill.

    Analysts said the downgrade would raise the cost of financing the other 2 billion euros they estimate it needs to shore up the banks and pay for other spending by the end of this year, but investors could be drawn to its high yield rather than shut it out of the market altogether.

    "This move proves that the road to navigate is very risky," said Peter Attard Montalto from Nomura International.
    The pearl of former Yugoslavia is now another "on it's knees" EU member country.

    Can someone please explain to me (again) how the EU will benefit Macedonians?
    Risto the Great
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  • Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4671

    #2
    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/moody...501-2irq2.html



    The pearl of former Yugoslavia is now another "on it's knees" EU member country.

    Can someone please explain to me (again) how the EU will benefit Macedonians?
    Not so much the "pearl" of the former YU but more Tito's love child.
    I think it's a case of Slovenians being 'too smart by half'.

    Probably on any measure of economics alone, Slovenia and the rest of the Eastern Europeans and Balkan EU members don't deserve to be there.
    Their memberships have largely been fast tracked because of geopolitical expediency.

    For the entire time period of the Yugoslav experiment, the Slovenians milked the poorer republics giving themselves a inflated self importance.

    Welcome to the real world.

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    • Big Bad Sven
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1528

      #3
      Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
      Not so much the "pearl" of the former YU but more Tito's love child.
      I think it's a case of Slovenians being 'too smart by half'.

      Probably on any measure of economics alone, Slovenia and the rest of the Eastern Europeans and Balkan EU members don't deserve to be there.
      Their memberships have largely been fast tracked because of geopolitical expediency.

      For the entire time period of the Yugoslav experiment, the Slovenians milked the poorer republics giving themselves a inflated self importance.

      Welcome to the real world.
      Its one thing to act like some sort superior germanic and elite overlord amongst your balkan and eastern european neighbours, but reality slovenia is a nothing state and not even respected in the EU and western europe.

      Its funny how slovenes like to look down on everyone else in the balkans but they are nothing but a toilet stop for europeans on their way to croatia

      The stingy slovenes could scam the other yugoslavians and cheat the system in the commie days, but its a whole different ball game today.

      The funny thing was the slovenes left yugoslavia because they were fed up with 'lazy people' from the south 'stealing' their money and doing 'nothing'. Now they are the joke of the EU

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      • Phoenix
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4671

        #4
        Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
        The funny thing was the slovenes left yugoslavia because they were fed up with 'lazy people' from the south 'stealing' their money and doing 'nothing'. Now they are the joke of the EU
        ...just another example of pissants living beyond their means.

        Lap dogs trying to run with the German Shepherds.

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13675

          #5
          Originally posted by Phoenix
          Their memberships have largely been fast tracked because of geopolitical expediency.
          Macedonia was supposed to have been 'ready' for membership long ago but has been denied (thankfully, by the looks of it) entry because of racist politicians south of the border and a perpetually spineless leadership in the West. It's all stupidly political, but some peasants still beg for EU crumbs.
          For the entire time period of the Yugoslav experiment, the Slovenians milked the poorer republics.........
          Can you elaborate on how they milked them? I have heard that Slovenes were upset about giving more than their fair share to support the poorer regions.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4671

            #6
            Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
            Can you elaborate on how they milked them? I have heard that Slovenes were upset about giving more than their fair share to support the poorer regions.
            Slovenia always enjoyed a much higher standard of living than Macedonia (and other regions in the former YU). The Macedonian economy was always predominantly agricultural.

            Produce was shipped from Macedonia and packaged and processed in Slovenia.
            The value adding process is far more rewarding to the Slovenian economy than to the Macedonian economy.

            Some will argue that Slovenia already had the infrastructure or even the entrepreneurial skills required but State policies and investment priorities also played a role.

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            • Soldier of Macedon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13675

              #7
              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
              The value adding process is far more rewarding to the Slovenian economy than to the Macedonian economy.
              I understand what you're saying, but I think if the overall economic situation was more rewarding for Slovenia they wouldn't have been complaining about paying more than their fair share to develop poorer regions in Yugoslavia. Their current financial predicament appears to have more to do with their entry into the EU rather than their exit from Yugoslavia.
              Some will argue that Slovenia already had the infrastructure or even the entrepreneurial skills required but State policies and investment priorities also played a role.
              It may not have been 'happy days' under the Hapsburgs for the Slovenes, but the mindset was certainly more progressive in terms of economics and infrastructure when compared to what we endured under the backward Ottoman system. If we were the richest republic in the Yugoslav federation and were expected to continually subsidise poorer regions (that aren't even ethnically related) then we too would have an axe to grind.
              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • Phoenix
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4671

                #8
                Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                ...It may not have been 'happy days' under the Hapsburgs for the Slovenes, but the mindset was certainly more progressive in terms of economics and infrastructure when compared to what we endured under the backward Ottoman system. If we were the richest republic in the Yugoslav federation and were expected to continually subsidise poorer regions (that aren't even ethnically related) then we too would have an axe to grind.
                It's a common problem all over the world, certain regions within a country are more affluent and those people feel 'hard done by' allegedly 'supporting' the 'poorer' regions.
                An example of this is the views of the Italians of the north against their compatriots in the South of the country.

                Whatever the social, economic or cultural differences are between them, the role of politics plays a massive part.

                Too often we see an inequitable distribution of government funding and infrastructure development across an entire country.
                Examples of this would include Russia in the 1990's and the huge funneling of investment into Moscow or even the recent wave of investment by Gruevski into Skopje at the expense of other cities or population centers.

                I think during the YU experiment Slovenia was the chief beneficiary of similar political and economic policies.
                From that stand point of privilege, it's easy to feel aggrieved.
                It's just plain greedy and arrogant.

                Fuck 'em, I reckon.

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