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  • lavce pelagonski
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1993

    The mentality of some Sellout Macedonians

    The discussion was over the ventilator in the picture and how it is a flag of capitulation


    Lavce Pelagonski Kade e Makedonskoto sonce
    Monday at 11:54am · Like

    Andy Plukov I believe that this event is in Macedonia or another country. I think that if this was in Greece we would see a crowd attacking the people with the Macedonian Flag and jacket. Can you please tell us where this picture was taken.
    Tuesday at 4:14am · Unlike · 1

    Vasko Kotevski I think it is not important where-important is because is done,it is step forward
    Tuesday at 6:03am · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski it is not done and it is not a step forward this flag represents our own capitulation to our name and identity. No one voted for this flag, stop trying to justify this flag as Macedonian as it is not this flag goes together with the name negotiations. I cn not believe how blind and how fast people forget.
    Tuesday at 10:18am · Like

    Ile Jovcevski it is a step forward, as it shows there are people out there that gave grown outside the rigid nationalistic tendencies of the Balkans...
    Tuesday at 10:35am · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski Ile since you do not care about national symbols you wont mind if I start calling you Yannis, it is the sellouts like you Macedonia is in this predicament. It is Patriotic to wont to keep and fight for what is yours not give it up to make small and insignificant short term gains.
    Tuesday at 1:44pm · Like

    Ile Jovcevski ah yes, patriotism...the virtue of the vicious.... is that still the nice word for nationalism these days?
    and what exactly did "we" sell to whom? our humanity for a flag? our soul for a political party? plenty of those around i'm afraid, even without "our" help tongue
    Yesterday at 1:29am · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski Do you like the statue of Hasan Pristina in Skopje the first Albanian President who was a strong advocate of a greater Albania. You can take the tourists to see the new monument. I do not sell my identity like you for the hope to enter the EU. What good has come out of your compromises are we good friends now holding hands. have you been to Solun lately, has your car got a nice sticker saying FYROM or is that just another word for you?
    Yesterday at 9:40am · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski You sell to the Greeks to the Bulgarians and to the Albanians. Your humanity for your identity and your soul to the devil.
    Yesterday at 9:42am · Like

    Ile Jovcevski ahem...i didn't say i want to get to EU... actually i am against it, and as a matter of fact i have been to Solun, and on my way there and back, the onely people i've had problems with, were our own customs officers. And if your last statement is a question, then yes, i have sold my identity for my humanity and would do it again. I was born a human being first and everything else later. nation, color, religion and what ever it is that you judge people by are the last things i see in a person. as for patriotism a wise man called it "the principle that will justify the training of wholesale murderers". it was patriots that started WW2, patriots invented ethnic cleansing, crusades and jihads.....and it is you patriots that are the major cause for all the conflicts in the world today, even this name issue between our countries; the patriots on both sides of the border...
    8 hours ago · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski Ti si za grevota ti ne si Makedonec, zaboravas za Makedoncite vo egejska i Pirinska kako stradat a tebe ne tie gajle za tvojeto ima od vakvi kako tebe Makedonija stradat. Znaci Goce Delcev da si sedese doma i da gi ostajese Turcite i Grcite da ne kolet. Kakva logika imas ti, da si patriot netrebas da kolis i da besis lugje.
    about an hour ago · Like

    Ile Jovcevski ne zaboravam voopsto, samo seti se deka ludjeto sto im go pravat toa na Makedoncite se isto taka patrioti, i toa prilicno iskreni patrioti. Omrazata i odmazdata ne e nacin. Ako mi veruvas ovoj spor ke se resi samo vo onoj moment, koga negovoto znacenje ke bide marginalizirano.
    23 minutes ago · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski Da so kopromiz na naseto ime, zname, istorija i identitet. Togas site vo Balkanot ke bidet drugari so Centralna Balkanska Republika a ti Centralen Balkanec. Dobra idea imas. Patriot znaci da si ja sakas tatkovinata i da ja branis nejzinata istorija i tvojot identitet kako Makedonec.
    12 minutes ago · Like

    Ile Jovcevski nema da ima potreba od kompromis, bilo na politicki, bilo na etnicki, religiozen ili bilo koj drug plan. a za istorijata....toa e drugo prasanje, naj dobro ostaveno na istoricarite, a ne na politicarite i patriotite
    10 minutes ago · Like

    Lavce Pelagonski Dobro kazimi po tvoje sto e dobar kompomis za nas?
    9 minutes ago · Like

    Ile Jovcevski moe mislenje? odrzuvanjena status kvo. bilo kakvo resenie doneseno vo momentov ke bide pogresno. duri i vlez vo EU e greska. dokolku go napravime toa sega, ke bide od pogresni pricini. bitni odluki ne se donesuvaat koga glavite se zeski. a bas vo ovie vreminja premnogu zaiteresirani strani se grizat da gi odrzuvaat tie glavi zeski.
    5 minutes ago · Like
    Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

    „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов
  • DraganOfStip
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1253

    #2
    Seriously,where is this picture taken?
    ”A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices”
    ― George Orwell

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    • Macedonian_Nationalist
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 407

      #3
      I'd happily burn both the Greek flag and the Ventilator together.

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      • DirtyCodingHabitz
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 835

        #4
        If you notice there's a serb flag behind the fyrom flag.

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        • lavce pelagonski
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1993

          #5
          An update....

          Lavce Pelagonski Sto mislis za compomis na imeto, identitetot, teritorija i opsto za nasata istorija sto tie ne priznavat?
          56 minutes ago · Like

          Ile Jovcevski vo pogled na istorijata, od ona sto jas go znam, nitu nasite nitu nivnite patrioti nemaat pricina da se raduvaat, a vo pogled na tritorija, simboli i slicno....sekoj sto ima stremez za formiranje nacionalno-etnicki cista drzava, vo "etnicki/istoriski" granici.....pripadja vo XIX vek. idninata ne e vo segregacija tuku vo integracija (ne mislam na EU tuka), a paj vo integrirana idnina, problemot so imeto nema da bide problem voopsto, site ke bideme ona sto sme. samo probaj toa da mu go kazes nekomu denes vo Makedonija ili Grcija, pa vidi kako ke reagiraat.....
          34 minutes ago · Like
          Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

          „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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          • Vangelovski
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 8534

            #6
            This guy's not making any F'ing sense. What kind of "intergration" is he talking about and how will we all just "be what we are"? And what according to him are we? Tell him to stop smoking crack. Lavce, is this a facebook convo? What group is it in?
            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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            • lavce pelagonski
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1993

              #7
              Yes its on fb on "R. Macedonia and Greece can be friends and we can prove it"

              with our very own Eddie Rebel and his lovely pics
              Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

              „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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              • makedonche
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 3242

                #8
                Lavce
                Well done.....keep going, don't stop till he wakes up to himself, it's morons like this who believe "the meek shall inherit the earth".........what's left of it after the pilferers have ransacked it beyond inheritance!
                On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                • Phoenix
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4671

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View Post
                  Yes its on fb on "R. Macedonia and Greece can be friends and we can prove it"

                  with our very own Eddie Rebel and his lovely pics
                  How did co_k suckers fill in their spare time before fb?

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15660

                    #10
                    Lavce, it is difficult fighting these "reasonable" people.
                    They are nothing but an enemy of the Macedonian identity.
                    They know what they are etc. etc.
                    Boring yet dangerous stuff.
                    Macedonia is full of them.
                    Greeks love them.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Vangelovski
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 8534

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View Post
                      Yes its on fb on "R. Macedonia and Greece can be friends and we can prove it"

                      with our very own Eddie Rebel and his lovely pics
                      Looks like a waste of time that one...
                      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                      • Vangelovski
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 8534

                        #12
                        Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                        Lavce
                        Well done.....keep going, don't stop till he wakes up to himself, it's morons like this who believe "the meek shall inherit the earth".........what's left of it after the pilferers have ransacked it beyond inheritance!
                        Not sure if that is the most appropriate Biblical quote Makedonche

                        Meekness does not mean weakness and its not about compromising on fundamental truths. Its about restraining one's power and not unleashing it in the form of overkill. I could learn to be more meek in some of my posts for example
                        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                        • makedonche
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 3242

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                          Not sure if that is the most appropriate Biblical quote Makedonche

                          Meekness does not mean weakness and its not about compromising on fundamental truths. Its about restraining one's power and not unleashing it in the form of overkill. I could learn to be more meek in some of my posts for example
                          Vangelovski
                          You're probably right, biblically speaking, more of an analogy of mental state rather than faith!
                          On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                          • Vangelovski
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 8534

                            #14
                            Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                            Vangelovski
                            You're probably right, biblically speaking, more of an analogy of mental state rather than faith!
                            On a different note (your emoticon reminded me of this ), you know the Australian Government, as of 1 December, is going to screw our cuban cigars with this plain packaging stuff. The labels on the cigars will either have to be covered over (with not easily removable stickers) or the labels themselves will have to be removed prior to sale. Not only will that open the way up for fakes, but it ruins the whole cigar experience.
                            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                            • makedonche
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3242

                              #15
                              Vangelovski
                              Obviously too much time on their hands and too much borrowed money to play with! Political correctness gone mad....or worse still rights and liberties ignored and trampled on!
                              On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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