Razer and Stefan - Bulgar morons

[Egejska]

Can't be bothered filing through 79 pages of posts, don't even have the time.

Razer - if you don't mind, of course. - where are you from in Bulgaria? Do you have any links to Pirin Macedonia?

[Razer]

Of course I don't mind - feel free to ask me anything. I'm from Sofia. I lived for almost 15 in South Africa. I got back in Bulgaria 2 years ago and I'm still adapting...Life here is quite different. No, I don' have any links to Pirin Macedonia - I haven't even been there yet. But I have two close friends from there and they have invited me for a holiday. Unforgettably I'm quite busy at the moment with work, but I'm looking forward to visiting Pirin soon. It's a beautiful place.

[Razer]

George S, when talking about Macedonians in Pirin (and Bulgaria in general) you need to split them into two groups:

First, the 500 000 real ethnic Macedonians who came to Bulgaria after the First Balkan War. They came here to seek refuge because only in Bulgaria they felt safe. Since then, most of those Macedonians were assimilated into the rest of the Bulgarian population and today they have a Bulgarian self-identification. Nobody is forcing them to do that.

And then there's the second group of Macedonians, who were actually Bulgarians forced by the Bulgarian Communist regime (under Stalin's orders) to declare themselves Macedonian during the mid 40's and 50's. I know you'll not agree with this statement, but I have seen too much undeniable evidence that support it.

Nobody denies that there are many, many Bulgarians of Macedonian origin. Our president is one of them. They live freely and have the same rights as any other Bulgarian.

[makgerman]

George S, when talking about Macedonians in Pirin (and Bulgaria in general) you need to split them into two groups:

First, the 500 000 real ethnic Macedonians who came to Bulgaria after the First Balkan War. They came here to seek refuge because only in Bulgaria they felt safe. Since then, most of those Macedonians were assimilated into the rest of the Bulgarian population and today they have a Bulgarian self-identification. Nobody is forcing them to do that.

And then there's the second group of Macedonians, who were actually Bulgarians forced by the Bulgarian Communist regime (under Stalin's orders) to declare themselves Macedonian during the 40's.

So are you implying the 500,000 Macedonians in Pirinska Macedonia didn't live there but they emigrated after the Balkan War I as refugees and the second "Bulgarian" group were forced to declare themselves as Macedonians?

Does this mean that there were no Macedonians in Pirinska before the Balkan War but were made up by the half-million refugees and the poor Bulgarians forced to declare themselves as "Macedonians." This sounds very similar to a Greek saying Tito brainwashed all of us to call ourselves Macedonian!

Also if the Macedonians went to Pirinska as refugees then why weren't they accepted to declare themselves as Macedonians later on. I find it hard to believe the Macedonians would have assimilated and become Bulgarian overnight without the help of the fascist Bulgarian governments.

You are not making sense!

The Bulgarian government continues to refuse to recognise the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. This includes the increasing number of Macedonians (I call them predavnici) who become Bulgarian citizens not because they are Bulgarian but because of financial reasons to get EU visas and live in other EU countries (not Bulgaria!) where they believe they can prosper. I have three cousins who have done this and all of them declare themselves as Macedonians.

Now if that number decided to live in Bulgaria and insisted on being recognised as "Ethnic Macedonians" with Bulgarian citizenships - would your beloved government accept it? I don't think so!

Accept the fact that many of Macedonia's neighbours, Bulgaria, Greece Albania have one common goal and that is to weaken and eventually destroy Macedonia as a country and our identity as Macedonia.

If you are a Bulgarian with good intentions towards our country then you should go and inform your countrymen of the past and present problems experienced by the Macedonians in Pirinska Macedonia.

Otherwise you are no use to us as you will be just like many others who pretend to be our friends but defend and justify all of the horrible actions undertaken by their countries.

[Razer]

So are you implying the 500,000 Macedonians in Pirinska Macedonia didn't live there but they emigrated after the Balkan War I as refugees and the second "Bulgarian" group were forced to declare themselves as Macedonians?

I don't know how many Macedonians lived there before that, but it's a well known fact that 500 000 ethnic Macedonians arrived in Bulgaria from Macedonia after the 1st Balkan War. They found peace and support here.

Also if the Macedonians went to Pirinska as refugees then why weren't they accepted to declare themselves as Macedonians later on. I find it hard to believe the Macedonians would have assimilated and become Bulgarian overnight without the help of the fascist Bulgarian governments.

Actually they were free to call themselves Macedonians and this was not a big deal. Even today you'll find plenty of Bulgarians who call themselves Macedonian. But to say that today there is a Macedonian ethnic minority is a very different story. This goes against the Bulgarian constitution, which clearly says that in Bulgaria there are no minorities. Macedonians, Turks, Romans and Armenians are all considered equal with ethnic Bulgarians.

This includes the increasing number of Macedonians (I call them predavnici) who become Bulgarian citizens not because they are Bulgarian but because of financial reasons to get EU visas and live in other EU countries (not Bulgaria!) where they believe they can prosper. I have three cousins who have done this and all of them declare themselves as Macedonians.

But look at the situation in Macedonia. Is it better to stay there and get killed by some fanatic Albanians, or to try to make a better living in Europe? How can you treat your brothers and sisters like that, calling them traitors?

[Phoenix]

Actually they were free to call themselves Macedonians and this was not a big deal. Even today you'll find plenty of Bulgarians who call themselves Macedonian. But to say that today there is a Macedonian ethnic minority is a very different story. This goes against the Bulgarian constitution, which clearly says that in Bulgaria there are no minorities. Macedonians, Turks, Romans and Armenians are all considered equal with ethnic Bulgarians.

...you're a fuckin' idiot.

If you can read that shit again and not see the contradiction and outright stupidity of what you posted, you're a complete waste of space.

I wish this was my forum, you wouldn't be here posting this fascist bullshit...have a good hard look at yourself you nazi mofo...

[makgerman]

I know that the absolute majority of people living in Pirinska were Macedonian before the war. Some Bulgarians settled after the war.

Being invaded and being forced to becoming Bulgarian is not finding peace. Being sarcastic is not the answer.

Why does the Bulgarian constitution say there are no minorities in Bulgaria when you and every other Bulgarian know they do exist? Is this the right way to go about it in today's age?

If Bulgarians declare themselves as Macedonians then why doesn't the government recognise them as Macedonian?

Shouldn't every person have the right to freely declare their race, culture, religion as we do here in Australia and in every other civilized country in today's world. It is fear my friend that has been in your brains ever since Macedonia was invaded and partitioned.

Why are racist countries like Bulgaria, Greece Albania exempt? Why don't you do something about it?

I am not going to respond to your last comment about being killed by fanatics as this has nothing to do with the Macedonians living in Bulgaria.

[Phoenix]

I know that the absolute majority of people living in Pirinska were Macedonian before the war. Some Bulgarians settled after the war.

Being invaded and being forced to becoming Bulgarian is not finding peace. Being sarcastic is not the answer.

Why does the Bulgarian constitution say there are no minorities in Bulgaria when you and every other Bulgarian know they do exist? Is this the right way to go about it in today's age?

If Bulgarians declare themselves as Macedonians then why doesn't the government recognise them as Macedonian?

Shouldn't every person have the right to freely declare their race, culture, religion as we do here in Australia and in every other civilized country in today's world. It is fear my friend that has been in your brains ever since Macedonia was invaded and partitioned.

Why are racist countries like Bulgaria, Greece Albania exempt? Why don't you do something about it?

I am not going to respond to your last comment about being killed by fanatics as this has nothing to do with the Macedonians living in Bulgaria.

To this day many residents of Sofia were originally from Macedonia and many still have relatives in Macedonia...

...the fascist pigs like Razer and his looney internet kinsmen are blind to this, sounds like this neo-nazi would have been nice and comfortable in apartheid South Africa and when the 'Kaffirs' took control he took refuge in the next biggest racist shithole on the planet...

[Razer]

I'll respond by quoting what the French writer and diplomat Henry Pozzi wrote in 1935 when he vised Macedonia and Bulgaria:

Excerpts from Black Hand over Europe; 1935


In the heart of the Balkan peninsula, stretching from Lake Orchrida, which washes the Albanian frontiers, to Drima on the Aegean Sea; from Salonika to Mount Shar north of Skopje, lies Macedonia, a beautiful country nearly three times as large as Belgium and inhabited by two and a half million people who possess the same language, the same culture, and with few exceptions, the same religion. Of this people, seventy per cent, are pure Bulgars.

Behind this country lie twenty centuries of tumultuous and tragic history, Rome, the Barbarians, the Crusades, Venice, the Ottoman, Alexander and the Empire of the OldWorld. On of the most powerful efforts for liberty of the Turks; always crushed, always regenerated, up to the victory of the Balkan Allies in 1912. A first distribution of Macedonian lands between Belgrade and Athens after the first Bulgar defeat in 1913. A second in 1918 after the World War and the second Bulgar defeat.

Today, a heavier servitude than the old one rests upon Macedonia, because the new master are stronger than the Turks, and more violent, and Europe, this time, supports and approves them. Five to six hundred thousand Macedonians (an entire people) have sought refuge in Bulgaria since the of their country by Greece and Serbia.

Those who were able to leave have left, since the peace of July 1913, and since the Armistice of October 1918, rather than suffer foreign domination. All the intellectuals, all the teachers, all those whom their antecedents or their relations rendered undesirable or suspect, have been expelled since the installation of the conquerors. Thousands more, before the frontiers closed, fled and abandoned all their property, often leaving behind them all or a part of their family. Of the same blood, the same language, the same traditions as the Bulgars, they have been received by them as brothers.

Finally, the Greek authorities expelled thousands of Macedonian families en bloc after the disaster of Smyrna, in order to install the Hellenic population of Asia Minor on their lands and in their homes, which they had confiscated without indemnity. The outcasts of Macedonia were shepherded by the Bulgarian Government, with the aid of the League of Nations, towards Bourgas, on the Black Sea and towards Dobroudja.

There they transformed what was before only broken stones and swamps into a flourishing country. Nothing distinguishes these Bulgars of Macedonia from the Bulgars of Bulgaria in the midst of whom they live. They are neighbors in the same villages, a number of them have won high social positions, some have become ministers, even Presidents of the Bulgarian Council.

Yet all have remained Macedonian. They look incessantly towards their beloved Fatherland, towards the obscure hamlets, the little white-and-rose cities of the frontier. There they were born and there most of them lived for so long that, if the barriers were removed tomorrow, every one of them would return to his native land.

“But your fields, the lands which the Government of Sofia have given to you and which your children and you have worked for fifteen years,” I asked a Macedonian labourer near Belica, “would you abandon them?” “My lands?” he replied. “They are over yonder in Macedonia. They are waiting for me. I hope to live long enough to return and sit on the stone bench which my father had placed under the apricot-trees before the door. He, also, is waiting for me.

”Five hundred thousand Macedonians in Bulgaria, where they are at home, where they have married, where they have nothing to fear from anyone, still think and speak as this old peasant of Belica. Fifteen hundred thousand Macedonians, in the annexed land under Greek or Serbian domination, live and have their children in the hope of this return, and in the expectation of it. What a tremendous pressure is here! What a colossal weight of desire waiting only for the right moment to take shape in action.

Soon after the annexation, attempts were made to “Hellenise” or “Serbianise” the Macedonians who remained in their country, and when they attempted their first gestures of revolt, they had the breath knocked out of them by the crushing violence of their new masters. The gendarmes, the prison, the certainty that they had no chance of help from anyone, has taught them in the past fifteen years to walk straight along the road indicated to them. They have become docile, respectful, obedient. They have learned to smile through their tears.

I have seen them, and the memory of the decay into which these free men have fallen makes my blood boil still. The Macedonians in Bulgaria are waiting also. But they are free, and for fifteen years they have pursued an obstinate dream that they will liberate their lost brothers. All the resources they have are consecrated to this task. There is not one among them, wherever the hazard of exile has placed him, who does not belong to a society, an association, a group of some sort destined to keep up among its members, and especially among the youth, the sentiment of national solidarity and the cult of a native land momentarily lost.

These organizations have their form in associations of Macedonian women; student associations; organizations for the assistance of old people, orphans, sick; associations for propaganda abroad; all form a network that lets nothing pass between its meshes. Not a Macedonian in Bulgaria! Not a Macedonian in foreign countries!That is the national slogan. And the apex of this organization is a handful of menworking in broad daylight with legalmethods and means; the Macedonian National Committee, which commands its energies, centralizes its resources, and directs its activities. In the shadow, beside the National Committee, but absolutely distinct from it, absolutely foreign to its work and actions, is another group of men, directed by other chiefs of the ORIM. We shall meet with it again.

The Macedonian question has existed for half a century. The desire for Macedonian liberty has become a burning obsession. This determination for liberty cost the Turks their possessions in Europe. Initial cause of the two Balkan wars, it was in order to liberate Macedonia that Bulgaria prepared the coalition in 1912, and it was in order to seize her from the victorious Bulgars, that the Serbs and the Greeks, in turn, joined against her in 1913. Macedonia was indirectly, but certainly, at the origin of the World War. A hot spot, indeed! Since the peace of 1918 the question of Macedonia has become like aworm in the brain of Yugoslavia. To pretend to reduce the Macedonian question, as the propagandists of Belgrade try, to the proportion of an absurd struggle between a great modern state and a few handfuls of bandits, is an absurdity. A latent insurrection which has lasted fifteen years and which will surely excite a new European conflagration unless things change drastically, merits more than two or three thousand lines of trite nonsense in certain recent news stories.

Whence comes the danger?

From the Macedonians themselves? From legal organizations such as the National Committee, or extra-legal as the ORIM?

Not at all!

The peril comes from the fact that the Serbs have annexed, thanks to France’s support, territories and populations which they have declared Serb when they were, and intended to remain, Bulgarian. They have been able to subject them, but they have not been able to assimilate them, and Macedonia, always ready for the insurrection, weighs upon Serbian politics like a ball and chain. In order to free themselves from this impediment, the Pan-Serb directors of Belgrade have decided to use the activity of the Macedonian nationalist organizations as an excuse for attacking Bulgaria. The Pan-Serbs have calculated in this way that they would kill two birds with one stone, and that they would compel the Macedonians to renounce all hope of liberation by destroying their support in Bulgaria. By destroying Bulgarian independence, also, they would reach Salonika and the Aegean.

Pan-Serbism has been working with all its force for several years to carry out this design. The violent campaign conducted by the Pan-Serb Press Bureau in France within the last few years, by means of books and newspapers,
and by faked documents has had no other object than to prepare French opinion for a Bulgaro-Yugoslav conflict. History has shown them the need for this. In June 1914, assured of the support of Russia (whose Pan-Slav party, directed by Sazonov, pushed them to action), the Pan-Serbs risked their all. French public opinion accepted the denials of the Serb Government that it had organized the double assassination at Sarajevo. It was because of the Serbs, and in order to defend their rights, that France went to war.

Today, since the publication of the debates which ended in the condemnation of the assassins of the Austrian Archduke, it is no longer possible to deny that these men acted at the formal instigation of certain Serbian officials. The Provision of money, arms, forged passports, and guides for crossing the frontier as far as in order to ascertain the most favorable spot for the attack, the act of Gavrilo Princip and the Tchabrinovitch, has all
been shown to be the work of men depending directly on the Government of Belgrade.

France must not be duped by another Sarajevo staged to save the Yugoslav dictatorship.

During my visit to Bulgaria I took the opportunity of visiting Dr. Stanicheff, the President of the Macedonian National Committee. I have rarely encountered a more engaging personality than this “revolutionary.”
Little over fifty years of age, tall, with steel-grey hair, clear of eye, a long, fine face lengthened still more by a pointed beard, he has incarnated the determined strength of his people. I saw him last on a fine morning of
August 1932, at the Committee, in Alexandra the First Street in Sofia, a few steps from the National Bank.

The great Macedonian organization has chosen for its headquarters an old bourgeois house with a ramshackle facade occupied on the ground floor by a coiffeur de dames. It is a peaceful street where lovers, because of the
near-by garden, have their rendezvous. Nearly opposite, at the corner of the street leading towards the Central Post Office and the Opera, is the most important pavement shoe-shine rank in Sofia.

Dr. Stanicheff greeted me cordially and asked my business. My answer was a follows: “I have come to the Balkans to investigate by myself, in my own manner, where and how I please. I do not want to be a machine for registering the voices of those whose opinions I like. I want to be a photographer who chooses his viewpoint and his personages for himself. I want to operate the camera and develop the negatives myself. I have NO other mission than to ‘photograph’ things and people at the right angle and under a good light, and to present them to the public without retouching.”

My host with a sign of his head showed his appreciation of my attitude.

“The Macedonian question,” I asked. “Will you explain to me as if I knew nothing about it. I have read all the books that your friends have written about it. All the replies from Belgrade and Athens, also. If I have made an
opinion, I want to forget. Give me yours.”

I still hear the laughter of Dr. Stanicheff:

“My opinion?” he said. “It is the opinion of a man with a Serbian price on his head? But you know it in advance! It is very simple. There is no Macedonian problem!”

I startled. Everyone from one end to the other of the Balkans has given me the same answer! “There is no Macedonian question” was just what Dr. Radovanovitch said to me in Belgrade not eight days before.
Dr. Stanicheff continued. “The word ‘problem’ stands for a very doubtful, controversial thing. Whereas the Macedonian question is clearness itself. To men of good faith it possesses the accuracy of a geometrical or algebraic theorem.

“The vast majority of Macedonians are Bulgars, at least in the proportion of four to one. They are Bulgars by origin, by custom, and by language. And all the geographers, all the philologists, be they German, Russian, English, French or Swiss, are all of the same opinion. Not fifty years ago all the Serb specialists said so too.

“The celebrated orientalist and historian, Louis Leger, professor at the College of France, whom the savants of the entire world recognized as their master in all Slav questions, wrote in 1917 in Le Panslavisme et l’Interet francais:

‘Macedonia is almost entirely peopled with Bulgars in spite of the affirmations to the contrary of the Serbs and the Greeks whose pretensions cannot prevail against the precise declarations of independent ethnologists, such as Lejean, Kiepert, Rittich, Grigorovitch, Helferding and MacKenzie. It was only when Serbia lost Bosnia and Herzegovina by the treaty of Berlin that certain statesmen had the idea of seeking a compensation on the Macedonian side and claiming the existence of Serbs in this country, which is solely peopled with Bulgars.”

“M. Ludovic Naudeau, former war correspondent of the Journal in the Balkans, declared on 7th February, 1927, to the Comite National d’etudes sociales et politiques de Paris: ‘Before the War, when one traveled about Macedonia, one encountered Bulgars, and not Serbs. Now Macedonia today has been baptised Serb.’”

“It is not necessary to be a great savant in order to substantiate our claims. We do not need to rummage in archives, to compare phonetics and to followthe migrations of races across the ages. It suffices to see, one beside the other, a Bulgar from Bulgaria and a Macedonian from Geuvgueli, from Veles or from Skopje. Try it yourself.”

“The Serbs say the Macedonians are Serbs, Serbs torn from Serbia by the Ottoman conquest, five centuries ago,” I told him.

“The Serbs said that to you, did they? Naturally! The unfortunate part of it is that they waited to make this magnificent discovery until they had need of pretext to justify their political designs on Macedonia, and that up to then there was not a single Serb to deny the exclusively Bulgarian character of Macedonia.”

“Today, thanks to your Frenchmen who won the War for them, the Serbs have achieved their ends. They are installed in Macedonia. And they have made haste to declare solemnly, peremptorily, to theworld that all the population of Macedonia are purely and undisputably Serb.As for the five hundred thousand Macedonians refuged in Bulgaria since 1913, the Serbian statistics soon reduced them to a few tens of thousands of Bulgar immigrants returned to their country of origin.”

“Why this lie, which is so clumsy that it has become an insult even to those who use it? Thousands of Europeans of all nationalities who have come to Bulgaria in the past fifteen years have been able to verify with their own eyes the presence of Macedonian refugees and to give an account of their numbers.”

“Why the Serbs find themselves bound to deny the evidence, you know as well as I. They have done it to avoid the application in Macedonia of the stipulations of the treaty of Saint-Germain which organized the protection of ethnic minorities in the annexed territories. In order to accomplish this it was necessary to make the Great Powers admit that the Macedonians were not Bulgars (to whom the special statutes of the treaty were applicable) but Serbs subject to all the laws of Serbia. It was also necessary, consequently, to deny the existence of the immense Macedonian emigration into Bulgaria.”

“The move has succeeded perfectly, thanks to the support lent by certain of your statesmen to the men of Belgrade. Not one of the Macedonian requests for frontier revision has ever been examined by the League of Nations.

When they arrive at Geneva Belgrade says: ‘No!’ France supports her, all the friends of France say ‘Amen!’ and the trick is done.”

“For the League of Nations there are no Macedonians; hence there can be no Macedonian question! And today fifty thousand Serb soldiers, gendarmes and irregulars, fourteen years after the so-called return of Macedonia to her pretended country, occupy our country and impose upon her a regime which you will be able to judge when you have seen it.”

“They told you at Belgrade that the violence and the abuses which we denounce exist only in our imagination and that Serbian Macedonia lies satisfied and happy under the administration of Belgrade? Naturally! Well, since you count on leaving shortly for Macedonia you will be able to judge for yourself – at least to the extent which they will permit you to do so.

Over there you will see who lies, we or Belgrade. Don’t try to be discreet with me. For us you will never be too outspoken. In the battle which we are waging alone, against all, for the liberty and the life of our people, there is one weapon which we never employ: the lie.” “When you come back from over there, on the condition, however, that you have been able to see behind the curtain, you will think as I do! There you will see a horror that exceeds all imagination. You will find a whole people crushed without pity, tortured cruelly, assassinated by the most abominable means.”

“Let us forget about that, my dear Doctor,” I interrupted him. “The Serbs have replied to all of the accusations made against them by your friends by categorically denying them. You pretend that they lie. They declare that it is you and your friends who lie. Well, I shall see for myself! Let us come back for a little while ago. How do you expect Belgrade, after fourteen years of uninterrupted Serb occupation, to consent, with a good will and without being constrained by force, to give up Macedonia? The independence of Macedonia? The hypothesis of the Dantzig corridor to Germany.”

“I know it!” agreed Dr. Stanicheff. “Today it is impossible. Toomany interests are leagued against right, our right. To give satisfaction to Macedonia would be to open the door to a general revision of all the peace treaties. Unless France, without whom they cannot live, compels them to do so, they will never consent. So we must learn to wait. We know that a day will come when our legitimate aspirations will be satisfied. We shall be patient. We have waited for such a long time that we can wait still longer.”

“But what do we demand today? Only that the Government of Belgrade gives to our miserable annexed compatriots, loyally and without reservations, all the rights and all the liberties which they agreed to give them by the treaty of Saint-Germain. That, in other words, it stops treating them like outlaws. Nothing more!”

“If Belgrade did that, loyally and without reservations, if property, honor, and individual liberty were guaranteed in Macedonia as they are in all civilized countries, all conflict between Yugoslavia and us would cease. Our refugees would return to their old homesteads. They would agree to be Yugoslav subjects – which does not mean Serbs!” “And Belgrade knows all this very well. They know we are ready to admit Macedonia as a sister nation with Croatia, Serbia, and Slovenia, all going to form a Yugoslav Federation in which all its members would have equal rights – with a common army, common diplomacy, public finance and Parliament. This Federation, these United States of the Balkans, would form that Union of all the Southern Slavs of which the Serbs dream.”

“And the ORIM,my dear Doctor?” I asked. “What are you going to do with the ORIM in all these fine projects?”

“What program and what intentions do you attribute to the ?” he asked in reply. “The men who direct the ORIM think as do those who direct the National Committee. Many times they have publicly declared that they were ready to lay down their arms if Belgrade would cease to maltreat the annexed Macedonians and give them the legal guarantees and the liberties to which they have a right. The ORIM added, however, that until then they would continue the struggle.”

“Unfortunately, I admit, we are still a long way from this solution of justice and good sense! The Serb administration is nowhere near abandoning the methods of violence which have raised all the Macedonians up against her.

And so on...You can read the book online here.

[Carlin]

I wonder what is the real number of Roma and Turks in Bulgaria? I have heard that there is at least one million Roma in Bulgaria at the moment, however, the official state counts most of them as 'Bulgarians' as they are Bulgarian-speakers.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=122441

[Razer]

To this day many residents of Sofia were originally from Macedonia and many still have relatives in Macedonia...

...the fascist pigs like Razer and his looney internet kinsmen are blind to this, sounds like this neo-nazi would have been nice and comfortable in apartheid South Africa and when the 'Kaffirs' took control he took refuge in the next biggest racist shithole on the planet...

You're way off dude...

[Razer]

I wonder what is the real number of Roma and Turks in Bulgaria? I have heard that there is at least one million Roma in Bulgaria at the moment, however, the official state counts most of them as 'Bulgarians' as they are Bulgarian-speakers.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=122441

Nobody really knows what the actual number is. But one million is way too much. I would same around 400-500 000. But they are growing and I hope the government does something about it before it's too late.

[Razer]

All of you seem to think that Bulgaria's constitution is racist, but it's not. Yes, it doesn't recognizes the existence of ethnic minorities, but on the other had it gives all ethnic groups equal rights. It was written that way to avoid ethnic conflicts. And the results speak for themselves - Bulgaria is probably the only country on the Balkans that hasn't had a civil war since it's independence.

Look at the problem Macedonia has with the Albanians. This is what happens when minorities don't accept the nationality of the host country - they stick to it like a tick, drink it' blood, poison it and eventually kill it. I this will not happen to Macedonia, and that Macedonians will have full control over its country as they deserve.

[Razer]

Have any of you heard about АЛМАКО? It's supposed to be the name of a future greater Albania, featuring lands of Albania (AL), Macedonia (MA) and Kosovo (KO).

[George S.]

yyes but what rights are you guys giving the minorities like macedonians practically nothing.Why are you beating omo.you CAN'T COMPARE THE ALBANIAN STANDARDS WITH THE MACEDONIANS IN PIRIN.tHE ALBANIANS ARE not native to macedonia.In macedonia it's not about rights as most rights are given anyway.BUt it is a rights & priveleges to secede from the host country.The albanians don't want macedonian citizenship or anything else macedonian except their land.It's a pretext of rights missing so that they can destabilise the country & their kosovo brother uck & ana to take over.