Whos more patriotic ?

[razmkd]

Whos more patriotic ?

The Macedonian people that live in Macedonia or the Macedonian people that live outside of macedonia?

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[MKPrilep]

very clear answer, the diaspora.
the macedonians at home don�t care.
all they want is sitting in the kafici and live on the costs
of their parents.
And I forget, complain how a bad life they have.

[Risto the Great]

I think it depends upon how you define "patriotic".
But under most definitions, in recent times, it would clearly be the Diaspora.

[Bij]

I don't know. Why don't you post a few more of your videos for me to figure it out.

[George S.]

some of the recognition must go to the diaspora for the world recognition we hacve as we are very well spread out.Plus we have our own culture religion etc people know it's macedonian orthodox.

[razmkd]

I personally think that the Macedonians that live in macedonia really dont care as much...

The peoples that dont live in Macedonia anymore miss it and thats why the diaspora is more powerful than the actual people that live in Macedonia

if i am right

Is this a serious problem to the countries future?

[George S.]

Well yes razmkd .They have the slave mentality & they can't seem to shake it.Wher as the diaspora doesn't have those hangups.

[ProMKD]

You guys are f****g ridiculous. Yes, let`s make our country a better place by dividing ourselves, east coast vs west coast!!!!!!! Let`s hate eachother, that way we can be stronger, lol!

It`s only natural, the most patriotic Macedonians left their homeland and haven`t returned in 35+ years, but watch folk dancing 9,000km from home. Those are patriots!

[TojSum]

This is patriotic:

Што му фали на овој град? (Скопје)

Замислете, сите поборници за странство кои жолчно бодрат све што е младо и има цел живот пред себе да си фаќа пат под нозе, ќе се разлетаат по посакуваните дестинации и работни места по светот. На нас поедноставните, ќе ни остават безброј паркинг места и слободни маси по кафичи. Ќе се разбистри воздухот од пљуканици, а јас повеќе нема да бидам жртва на „ма бегај надвор дур си млада" и „како бе може да ти се седи тука?"

Ми се седи бе. Мене ова ми е најубавиот град на светот.

Па еве читам, сериски убиец го дигнал Париз на нозе. Колку барокно од негова страна! На разни форуми се појавуваат заулавени Американци кои плакаат дека ги вреѓа што нивните френдови на Фејсбук си комуницирале на шпански. Патриотски си го бранат јазикот и нацијата и жустро се борат против доселеници што им ја трујат земјата, бутајќи им кришум пијачки на Индијанците што ги гледаат со крената веѓа. А по скандинавските земји, туку ќе рипне некој од зграда зашто многу рано му се стемнувало.

А ние сакаме таму.

Пардон, јас нигде не одам. Не верувам дека ме чека некој со раширени раце таму надвор, да ми каже „имам слободно директорско место во мојата мултимилионска корпорација, баш како за тебе". Односно, верувам дека има и такви што шират раце, но меѓу нив има парола „dishwasher wanted". Во превод, судоперка. Е па, за судоперка можам и овде. Секоја должна почит за луѓето кои решаваат да си ја пробаат среќата, а парите од бришење под се далеку потешко заработени од предавање на универзитети. Секоја чест за тие што успеале и што живеат убаво и секое добро на тие што се трудат.

Јас само би сакала да не ми се случуваат муабети од типот:

„Кога ќе те праќаме во странство тебе? Не биди будалче да се трошиш овде, паметна си!"

„Па коа ќе си најдеш некој згоден Германец! *намиг, намиг*"

„Да видиш на Мирко што му е фино, и си се ожени, и кола си купи и дечиња си има, ќе дојдат за Божиќ, во 2019-та, ќе ги видиме!"

„Ма да видиш, влегов во WC во Белгија. Колку беше чисто, да спиеш внатре!"

Спиј бе, пријателе. Чисто е, наши го чистеле, затоа.

Да се вратам на насловот. Па не му фали нешто многу, има и вишок. Всушност најмногу има од тоа што не му треба. Огорченост поради типичното „тревата е позелена од другата страна", лоши имитации на секое поле и колективно јадење бубрези дека не го бива. А толку многу работи лежат во него. А пустата трева некако иста боја е сегде.

И кога ќе се ослободи од сето тоа што го труе, од потребштини ќе му остане тоа, истото.

Бурлеска, по некој легитимен стриптиз-бар и француски слаткарници. И подобро кафе на повеќе места. И малце повеќе љубов.

И паркинг.

Можеби и повеќе љубов на паркинг.

Дури и совршен ќе стане.

Јана

http://off.net.mk/bavchi/jana/shto-mu-fali-na-ovoj-grad

[ProMKD]

Exactly!!!!! That`s where nostalgia comes from, from people who have left and wish they never did!

[Risto the Great]

You guys are f****g ridiculous. Yes, let`s make our country a better place by dividing ourselves, east coast vs west coast!!!!!!! Let`s hate eachother, that way we can be stronger, lol!

It`s only natural, the most patriotic Macedonians left their homeland and haven`t returned in 35+ years, but watch folk dancing 9,000km from home. Those are patriots!

Definition: A person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

ProMKD, do you think Macedonia is under attack right now? Who is defending it? Would waving a venitlator around be considered patriotic?

I think a fair degree of ignorance exists in the Diaspora, but the blind ignorance in RoMacedonia is absolutely crushing.

I think Macedonia is quite unique, being patriotic in Macedonia would mean you do not support your country (or at least the decisions of its leaders) the way it is presently,

[ProMKD]

ProMKD, do you think Macedonia is under attack right now? Who is defending it? Would waving a venitlator around be considered patriotic?

I think a fair degree of ignorance exists in the Diaspora, but the blind ignorance in RoMacedonia is absolutely crushing.

I think Macedonia is quite unique, being patriotic in Macedonia would mean you do not support your country (or at least the decisions of its leaders) the way it is presently,

I'm not going to comment on your questions, because the poster of this topic should be suspended for a day for promoting hate amongst Macedonians.

Do you people not have relatives in Macedonia? Do you not think you are calling them retards and traitors? If you want to discuss people being sheep, we can, and we have in almost all of the topics, but don't pose the rhetorical questions "who is more patriotic" when half or more of all diaspora people don't even speak their own damn language. How patriotic can you be if you're not even bothered to learn your mother tongue.

[Risto the Great]

I think the question was an interesting one and would not be suspending the original poster for asking it. Why should it promote hate? It should promote dialogue.

I am positive there are ethnic Albanians in Macedonia who know Macedonian much better than me so I would not use language as a measure. I would rely on actions of individuals and let those actions speak for themselves.

I think you are patriotic.

[Big Bad Sven]

I'm not going to comment on your questions, because the poster of this topic should be suspended for a day for promoting hate amongst Macedonians.

Do you people not have relatives in Macedonia? Do you not think you are calling them retards and traitors? If you want to discuss people being sheep, we can, and we have in almost all of the topics, but don't pose the rhetorical questions "who is more patriotic" when half or more of all diaspora people don't even speak their own damn language. How patriotic can you be if you're not even bothered to learn your mother tongue.

I have family on Ohrid who or are SDSM sheep and stooges, they are retards. I have family in Strumica who work in a "organization" that helps macedonians obtain bulgarian passports and citizenship easily and faster, they are retards too. Wether you are in the diaspora or the rep of macedonia, if you do retarded things that hinder macedonian nationalism then you are a retard in my book

Funny you complain about the original poster making divisions in the community for asking one question, yet you come up here putting down Macedonians in the diaspora who either dont have the best skills in speaking Macedonian or cant speak it at all.

What next, all Macedonians that are not orthodox christian aren't true macedonians?

[razmkd]

ProMKD ,

Hate against Macedonians ?

Seriously man how can this thread be a question of hate? Being Patriotic is a good thing, if not one macedonian was patriotic there wouldn't be a Macedonia or a Macedonian Forum

I just personally believe the outsiders are more patriotic because they miss the land more thats all.

I think you are patriotic- Quote from Risto the Great