Macedonia Names Highway “Alexander of Macedon”

[I of Macedon]

And Pericles too.

Now why he wrote "Alexandros and the Hellenes,except Lacedaemonians,from the Barbarians of Asia?"
and why he sent them to Acropolis of Athens?

At least he could write Aleksandar and the Grci...

The above mentioned in Arrian, the Ancient Greek historian.

Do you actually understand what that sentence is telling you, all you see is ‘Alexander’ and ‘Greeks,’ Never mind the complete absence of the mention of the Macedonians and/ or his mention as king of Macedon. Never mind the absence of the Spartans, whilst sending 300 suits of Persian armour to the goddess Athena in Athens, ironically the same number of which the famous Spartans fought and died against the Persians before alexanders time.

Now if that is not specific designed propaganda for the Greek allies and others to keep quiet (even though many of the Greeks still persisted to revolt given the chance) I don’t know what is.

Further in Arrian’s work you will find the following samples:

"In the spring of 334 Alexander set out from Macedonia, leaving Antipater with 12,000 infantry and 1,500 cavalry to defend the homeland and to keep watch on the Greek states." [p.34]

[Book II - Battle of Issus] "Darius' Greeks fought to thrust the Macedonians back into the water…..The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian." [p.119]

Alexander continues to address his troops: "Gentlemen of Macedon, and you my friends and allies…p.294]

We can go on and on and on, but you still fail to understand and only succeed in nit-picking (something we can all do without grasping the idea behind its meaning). As Borza stated in the case of the Harvard scholar E. Badian, his critics (I wonder who – considered Badian attacking Hellenic identity) succeeded only in nit-piking. As E. Badian concluded, whatever the ethnic origins and identity of the Macedonians, they were generally perceived not to be Greek. This judgment that the Macedonians neither considered themselves Greek nor were so considered by their neighbours is shared by Hammond, History of Greece, 534-35. Further as Borza states; NO SINGLE ARGUMENT IS CONCLUSIVE, but the case builds in quality as it grows in QUANTITY OF EVIDENCE, in the end, is persuasive.

[Pelister]

And Pericles too.

Now why he wrote "Alexandros and the Hellenes,except Lacedaemonians,from the Barbarians of Asia?"
and why he sent them to Acropolis of Athens?

At least he could write Aleksandar and the Grci...

But look at the number 20,000 Greek mercenaries. What does the number tell us? A few years earlier when Phillip crushed the Greeks at the battle of Chaeronea, they numbered between 25,000 and 30,000 army. This was the whole of the Greek force - with the exception of the Spartans. At that time - these numbers for an army are about as high as they ever got. Just to put that into context, you can understand that when there were 20,000 (some say 50,000) Greeks fighting as allies to the Persians, this number represents pretty much every able bodied Greek in Greece that is left. The other sigficant point we need to take from this event is that this alliance flies in the face of centuries of Greek and Persian hostilities. The Greeks would never ally themselves to a barbarian King unless they thought they were under serious threat of extinction. We should understand that in the context of the events of those times, if the Macedonians had not wiped out every able bodied Greek and left them to rot on the field of the battle of Chaeronea, then the death of 20,000 Greeks (accounts put the number as high as 50,000 Greeks) allied to Darius certainly finished them off.

So you can understand that the ancient Macedonians played a direct role in wiping the ancient Greeks off the map.

[TerraNova]

But look at the number 20,000 Greek mercenaries. What does the number tell us? A few years earlier when Phillip crushed the Greeks at the battle of Chaeronea, they numbered between 25,000 and 30,000 army. This was the whole of the Greek force - with the exception of the Spartans. At that time - these numbers for an army are about as high as they ever got. Just to put that into context, you can understand that when there were 20,000 (some say 50,000) Greeks fighting as allies to the Persians, this number represents pretty much every able bodied Greek in Greece that is left. The other sigficant point we need to take from this event is that this alliance flies in the face of centuries of Greek and Persian hostilities. The Greeks would never ally themselves to a barbarian King unless they thought they were under serious threat of extinction. We should understand that in the context of the events of those times, if the Macedonians had not wiped out every able bodied Greek and left them to rot on the field of the battle of Chaeronea, then the death of 20,000 Greeks (accounts put the number as high as 50,000 Greeks) allied to Darius certainly finished them off.

So you can understand that the ancient Macedonians played a direct role in wiping the ancient Greeks off the map.

You are offside...

1st- Casualties of Athenians and Boetians were insignificant.It was definitely not a slaughter at all.
Some 1000 Athenians ,around 300 of the sacred band,and the Boetians.
Battles between phalanxes did not result in great number of casualties.

2nd. There were 1000 more Polis in Greece ,who didn't participate in the conflict-2 city states (Athens,Thebes) against Macedon and their allies(Epirus,Thessaly,Aetolia,Locris) is NOT a war between Macedonians..and Greeks ,as you believe.

3rd.It was some 60 years ago,when the "Ten Thousand" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Thousand_(Greek)
went to Persia to fight for a wannabe Persian king.
They were mercenaries since they got paid ,they went to "work" there.
Nothing like..."aliance" .Mercenaries do not obey to their homeland or state,but to their pocket.It's clear.
Since Greeks were the best soldiers of the era,and they fought all the time between themselves-so they were experienced,theey were the best mercenaries available for the wealthy Persian kings.
(They were hired several times from 400BC on)

[Soldier of Macedon]

Terry, enough with your lies.

Macedonians buried Greeks at Chaeronea, simple, no two ways about it.

This day put an end to the glorious sovereignty and ancient liberty of all Greece

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=681

[Coolski]

wow, wikipedia references.

[Spartan]

Terry, enough with your lies.

Macedonians buried Greeks at Chaeronea, simple, no two ways about it.

This day put an end to the glorious sovereignty and ancient liberty of all Greece


http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=681

The ancient Macedonians did win that battle of Chaeronea,and it did show the city states that they were not to be messed with.
However, the victory of the actual battle itself was over Thebes and Athens(as far as I know, correct me if Im wrong), not ALL the Greeks. The show of power at Charonea, was all Philip needed to put the reigns on the rest of the city states.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Spartan, I will have to correct you as you are wrong.

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=681goto=newpost

Greece was now wrought up to a high pitch of expectation at the thought of her future, and her peoples and cities all drew together, Euboeans, Achaeans, Corinthians, Megarians, Leucadians and Corcyraeans……………………Plutarch


For the disaster at Chaeronea was the beginning of misfortune for all the Greeks...............Pausanias

This day put an end to the glorious sovereignty and ancient liberty of all Greece.................Justinus



Athenians and Thebans merely joined forces to lead all the other Greeks, against the Macedonians.

[Spartan]

Athenians and Thebans merely joined forces to lead all the other Greeks, against the Macedonians.

Thanks SoM
I guess thats where I was mistaken
Im pretty sure the Spartans didnt join in though,
They probably hated the Athenians more than anyone

[Soldier of Macedon]

As far as I am aware the Spartan's did not join in, you guys probably thought 'let them all destroy each other', selfish bastardos

[Spartan]

That is so true(except the bastardos , selfish I will concede), "xenophobic" would be an understatement
Thus the quote "...less the Lacadaemonians..."

[Pelister]

I reckon they should rename a place after his mother, and when the time comes for the Macedonians to build a parliament they should style it on the Acropolis/Parthenon, which at the end of the day wasn't built by the Greeks, but by the mysterios Pelasgians (this way maybe we can win over the dangerous imagination of the West into thinking that it was the barbarians of old that brought culture to ancient Greece).

[Pelister]

The ancient Macedonians did win that battle of Chaeronea,and it did show the city states that they were not to be messed with.
However, the victory of the actual battle itself was over Thebes and Athens(as far as I know, correct me if Im wrong), not ALL the Greeks. The show of power at Charonea, was all Philip needed to put the reigns on the rest of the city states.

Not only did they win the battle - think about what happened after that.

After decimating the Greeks at Chaeronea, they then killed another 20,000 (some sources say 50,000) Greeks fighting on the side of Darius against the Macedonians.

That would be between 50,000 and 80,000 Greeks slaughtered by the Macedonians in a few years.

That would equate to just about every male in Greece able to hold a sword or spear. Probably two or three generations of Greek males wiped out.

When the Macedonians were done with them - there were no young men left in Greece, and Greece was simply snuffed out.

This may explain why the Modern Greeks are so sensitive about their origins.

[Spartan]

That would equate to just about every male in Greece able to hold a sword or spear. Probably two or three generations of Greek males wiped out.

When the Macedonians were done with them - there were no young men left in Greece, and Greece was simply snuffed out.

Interesting interpretation of events Pelister.
Is this a conclusion you have drawn on your own, or is their documentation backing this?
I dont mean to question you, but if what you claim is indeed true, I would be interested in reading up on it.
The city states that did not take arms against Alexander, where they wiped out as well?

[TerraNova]

Interesting interpretation of events Pelister.
Is this a conclusion you have drawn on your own, or is their documentation backing this?
I dont mean to question you, but if what you claim is indeed true, I would be interested in reading up on it.
The city states that did not take arms against Alexander, where they wiped out as well?

That's hilarious ...
I would add that there were about 300.000 more Greeks killed mysteriously after the mysterious Pelasgians' revolt...
Then the aliens came,lead by Minotaurus..and the rest are known...

[Soldier of Macedon]

That's hilarious ...
I would add that there were about 300.000 more Greeks killed mysteriously after the mysterious Pelasgians' revolt...
Then the aliens came,lead by Minotaurus..and the rest are known...

No, that's hilarious.......