Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin, Nikola Tesla & Thomas Edison

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    • Sep 2008
    • 13676

    Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin, Nikola Tesla & Thomas Edison

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    The legend goes that Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. (He definitely didn't.) There is also a legend that Nikola Tesla burst forth from his mother's womb at the stroke of midnight as July 9th gave way to July 10th in the year of our Lord 1856. (He probably was.) The heroic figure that Thomas Edison is and shouldn't be rightly belongs to Nikola Tesla, who was the only true genius of the two. Nikola Tesla arrived in America in 1884, more than virtually penniless, but with a head nearly bursting from radical ideas that most considered verging on the lunatic. The most unfortunate decision of Tesla's life was to go to work for Thomas Edison, a man known by those who worked for him more as a thief of ideas than as an inventor of anything that was in any way useful.
    Edison was notoriously disdainful of those whose brilliance outshone his, and the Tesla alliance lasted not long. By May of 1885, George Westinghouse (yes, that Westinghouse) had purchased patent rights to a slew of inventions that had come about as a result of Tesla's brilliance. Westinghouse apparently was just as big a thief and jerk as Edison, resulting in Tesla losing the rights to nearly everything he invented while in the employ of George, and just what is about guys named George, anyway? (For the record, my birth name was George, but was legally changed when I was still a very young child for reasons even I don't fully know.) After freeing himself from the mercenary intrusions of a second second-rater, Nikola Tesla finally established his own labs in 1895. During this frenzied period, Tesla worked on furthering X-ray technology, as well as inventing the Tesla coil, a device still used in many wireless products today. There is no denying that Nikola Tesla was a genius when it came to invention, but he definitely lacked something Edison actually did possess: the ability to manipulate public opinion and intimidate others. Never one to let products that were actually superior in every way to his own gain a foothold with the American public, however, Edison saw Tesla merely in terms of being a rival to his own desire to become America's greatest inventor. As one of the few willing to publicly admit the truth about Thomas Edison, Tesla refused to share a Nobel Prize for Physics with Edison because he accused (accurately) Edison of using underhanded methods to get his direct current means of providing electricity adopted. Tesla's alternating current had been proven time and time again in public demonstrations to be ridiculously superior to Edison's direct current. As a result, though both Tesla and Edison were proposed to win the Nobel Prize, what actually occurred was the unthinkable no matter which way you look at: neither Edison nor Tesla can be found on a list of Nobel Prize winners.

    Today, thanks to David Bowie's genuinely engrossing portrayal of Tesla in the film The Prestige, Tesla is mainly known for his more outlandish theories, such as terrestrial stationary waves. Tesla theorized that our planet could potentially be utilized as a giant conductor. As in the movie, Tesla was capable of illuminating 200 lamps without a single connecting wire from as far away as 25 miles. His experiments in creating lightning bolts were also quite shocking to those who were lucky enough to see it. The story goes that Tesla had great fun creating electrical storms inside his own lab. Because he dared to expand upon the reaches of the severely limited world of Edisonesque experimentation, he was greeted with sarcastic critiques from most during his lifetime. The result was the death knell for all inventors: a lack of adequate funding. For that reason, a great many of Nikola Tesla's ideas remained locked onto the pages of his notebooks until they could be realized by future generations. That has meant a delay in many technological advancements that could have changed the world.

    But, hey, at least we had Edison's light bulbs that burned out after twenty hours of use for the better part of a century.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15661

    #2
    Love the guy.
    Apparently he was repulsed by fat women. Just filling in the gaps lol
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

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    • Dejan
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 592

      #3
      Good doco I found on Tesla

      You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

      A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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      • Brian
        Banned
        • Oct 2011
        • 1130

        #4
        Imagine having the patent for 20 years on the electric light bulb and electric motor at a time when whole cities/countries were being electrified. That's why General Electric is such a huge company and one of the reasons Tesla had to go.

        It is said the total death blow for Tesla was when he was financed by JP Morgan to build his electric towers which he told Morgan would transmit electricity without wires.

        The project started and all seemed well until Morgan found out the towers would also draw electricity from the environment. When Morgan realised the project would validate the devices which could later be built on a much smaller scale to power a building (ie you buy the device once Vs buying supplied electricity from Morgan forever), he is said to have gone into a fit of rage, pulled the plug on the project, bankrupted Tesla and threatened any other bank/financier with his wrath if they dared loan money to Tesla.

        It is known that FBI agents raided Tesla's hotel room the moments after he died and cleared the room and a small safe of all document.

        Tesla died alone and penniless, whereas had he succeed a "Tesla Electric" company could today have been as big as General Electric.

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #5
          he was way aheas of his time.
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • Bill77
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 4545

            #6
            SOM.....Can you add Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin to the title of this thread?
            He is another amazing inventor with many patants, but rarely brought up.
            The diference between Pupin and Tesla/Edison.......is Pupin has ties with Macedonia. As i brought up in another thread, his parents lived in Vevcani which this house is a major tourist atraction in Vevcani. Pupin is held with such high regard in Vevcani, that his face is on one of their their currency notes.


            Another little fact is, thanks to his protest to then USA president Woodrow Wilson who based on the data received from Pupin historical and ethnic characteristics of boarder areas of Dalmatia, Slovenia, Istria, Banat, Međimurje, Baranja and Macedonia, stated that he did not recognize the London agreement signed between allies and Italy. And in this London agreement, Bulgaria should have gotten a part of Macedonia all the way to Skopje.

            Pupin released about 70 technical articles and reviews and 34 patents.

            Here are the Patents released in America: (thanks to Wiki)

            U.S. Patent 519,346 Apparatus for telegraphic or telephonic transmission 8 May 1894

            U.S. Patent 519,347 Transformer for telegraphic, telephonic or other electrical systems 8 May 1894

            U.S. Patent 640,515 Art of distributing electrical energy by alternating currents 2 January 1900

            U.S. Patent 640,516 Electrical transmission by resonance circuits 2 January 1900

            U.S. Patent 652,230 Art of reducing attenuation of electrical waves and apparatus therefore 19 June 1900

            U.S. Patent 652,231 Method of reducing attenuation of electrical waves and apparatus therefore 19 June 1900

            U.S. Patent 697,660 Winding-machine 15 April 1902

            U.S. Patent 707,007 Multiple telegraphy 12 August 1902

            U.S. Patent 707,008 Multiple telegraphy 12 August 1902

            U.S. Patent 713,044 Producing asymmetrical currents from symmetrical alternating electromotive process 4 November 1902

            U.S. Patent 768,301 Wireless electrical signalling 23 August 1904

            U.S. Patent 761,995 Apparatus for reducing attenuation of electric waves 7 June 1904

            U.S. Patent 1,334,165 Electric wave transmission 16 March 1920

            U.S. Patent 1,336,378 Antenna with distributed positive resistance 6 April 1920

            U.S. Patent 1,388,877 Sound generator 3 December 1921

            U.S. Patent 1,388,441 Multiple antenna for electrical wave transmission 23 December 1921

            U.S. Patent 1,415,845 Selective opposing impedance to received electrical oscillation 9 May 1922

            U.S. Patent 1,416,061 Radio receiving system having high selectivity 10 May 1922

            U.S. Patent 1,456,909 Wave conductor 29 May 1922

            U.S. Patent 1,452,833 Selective amplifying apparatus 24 April 1923

            U.S. Patent 1,446,769 Aperiodic pilot conductor 23 February 1923

            U.S. Patent 1,488,514 Selective amplifying apparatus 1 April 1923

            U.S. Patent 1,494,803 Electrical tuning 29 May 1923

            U.S. Patent 1,503,875 Tone producing radio receiver 29 April 1923

            Pupin coils

            Pupin's 1899 patent for loading coils, archaically called "Pupin coils", followed closely on the pioneering work of the English physicist and mathematician Oliver Heaviside, which predates Pupin's patent by some seven years.
            The importance of the patent was made clear when the American rights to it were acquired by American Telephone & Telegraph (AT&T), making him wealthy. Although AT&T bought Pupin's patent, they made little use of it, as they already had their own development in hand led by George Campbell and had up to this point been challenging Pupin with Campbell's own patent. AT&T were afraid they would lose control of an invention which was immensely valuable due to its ability to greatly extend the range of long distance telephones.
            Pupin was among the first to replicate Roentgen's production of x-rays in the United States. He in 1896 invented the method of placing a sheet of paper impregnated with fluorescent dyes next to the photographic plate, thereby permitting an exposure of only a few seconds, rather than that of an hour or more.
            Last edited by Bill77; 02-07-2012, 02:47 AM.
            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              #7
              Bill he seems to be one of the unsung heroes.I have never heard of him & i have studied physics & electronics.The thing that is amazing is about this time a lot of people were experimenting with electricty.Dc currents alternating currents,valves transformers ,batteries,coils.Xrays.They were all on the verge of great discoveries.Some were doing it for themselves some for their governments,some for their corporations.Just think pupin's inventions were used in radio,electricity generation etc.I wonder why we haven't heard of him.??
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Dejan
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 592

                #8
                It's up to us Macedonians to promote him
                You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

                A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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                • Big Bad Sven
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1528

                  #9
                  Pupin obviously grew up thinking he was a serb, but what where his parents? From what i understand from talking to people from vevcani is that the village has always been "pure" macedonian and history shows us that the majority of the population(almost all of vevcani) in ottoman times were classified as members of the "Bulgarian" orthodox church - which to me means Macedonians.

                  Even today vevcani only has three serbs. Im assuming the parents became serb once they moved to serbia?

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                  • Brian
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1130

                    #10
                    Ok, it's not exactly Tesla, but some real good fans of his. I just thought it might be interesting to know Tesla's name lives on.

                    Tesla unveils Model X electric sport-utility vehicle





                    Story in Link.

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                    • Coolski
                      Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 747

                      #11
                      My parents viisted Pupin's house in Vevčani. I'd like to go there some day.
                      - Секој чоек и нација има можност да успеат колку шо си дозволуваат. Нема изговор.
                      - Every human and nation has the ability to be as great or as weak as they allow themselves to be. No excuses.

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                      • Nexus
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 73

                        #12
                        By the way, what origin was Tesla? The serbs tell he's serb, The croats say he's croat and the romanians claims he was romanian ...

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                        • Bill77
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4545

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nexus View Post
                          By the way, what origin was Tesla? The serbs tell he's serb, The croats say he's croat and the romanians claims he was romanian ...
                          Don't ask a Greek, i'm sure they will claim him to.

                          Teslaidis
                          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                          • Nexus
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 73

                            #14
                            It is funny because albanians claim him too, montenegrins, etc ... But I was really surprised about the romanians/vlachs claiming others balkans figures, i don't know that they want to play this stupid game too. I read something funny : All the slavic speaking peoples of the Balkans are in fact slavisized vlachs. We're not longer slavisized albanians? Cheers! Seriously , when will this "war" end?

                            By the way, Nikola Tesla is, indeed, a serbian, (even if he was croat, it will change nothing, for me = Serbs/Croats/Montenegrins/Bosniaks are the same people, but with differents religions ) and one of my top five scientifics.

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                            • George S.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10116

                              #15
                              tesla was a man ahead of his time.He was tallking of delivering electricity wirelessly.Some say he was way ahead of even an einstein.
                              Last edited by George S.; 01-04-2013, 05:31 PM.
                              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                              GOTSE DELCEV

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