sputnik sounds more like russian.welcome sputnik remember the dog who went to space called laika.
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"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Originally posted by Sputnik View PostHello to everyone.
To use a radio talk back term, iv'e been a long time listener, first time caller.
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Originally posted by George S. View PostCan you decipher in your brain that we have been had & we have been screwed by our own politicians.We are still being screwed around with the name just so that we could enter the eu.
You were not exactly screwed; you were in Australia and that works both ways. You can't even understand why people make their choices in Macedonia because you don't live their life; actually you know very little about their everyday life.
Originally posted by George S. View PostIn 1995 the traitor branko crvenkovski capitulated on the flag.He didn't have to do it but he did.He didn't ask the people to make that decision.He is a traitor for giving in so easily.
Originally posted by George S. View PostWhaT WE in the diaspora are saying is there was no reason why we should change our flag.It is a sun symbol used by the macedonians throughout the ages.Unlike the greeks they only came to be aware after discovering it 1n 1988 in vergina(kutlesh).Why doesn't greece have a monopoly on it because that symbol is macedonian & it is plastered literarily everywhere in ROM.
Originally posted by George S. View PostCultea what makes you sure that greece cares one way or the other only if it doesn't have to give back the macedonian lands back.That it took illegally from the macedonian people.
I don’t know anyone who has officially “asked for his land back”. Why don’t you send us a letter?
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Originally posted by cultea View PostThat is typical of the mentality I was criticizing. In our days people always speak of how "they were screwed by their politicians", even though (for the first time in History) they elected them, again and again and again.
You were not exactly screwed; you were in Australia and that works both ways. You can't even understand why people make their choices in Macedonia because you don't live their life; actually you know very little about their everyday life.
If you were right, your next Prime Minister would have changed policy. Did he?
If only it was in 1988. You wouldn't have time to know about it and adopt it by 1991 and there would be no issue today. It was in 1977.
Greece liberated Macedonia after fighting against Bulgarians, then against Turkey, then against Bulgaria again. Your ancestors were somehow implicated or not in these fights and wars. Actually, they may have fought with one or more of these sides. Ask them.
I don’t know anyone who has officially “asked for his land back”. Why don’t you send us a letter?
I am sending you a letter right now, and your belittling and condescending comments here are unwanted
Macedonia was partitioned and 51% of it has fallen under a country that does not acknowledge nor give any human rights to its people, so am telling you to fark off with your derogatory and condescending remarks and go to maggots forum instead
HOW DARE YOU tell George to send a letter to ask for Macedonia back?
Your snide smirks are irritating"The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev
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how did greece gain the symbols easy by our politicians defaulting.The people never approved of what they did.
Also you say greeks liberated macedonia.How was macedonia liberated when it was partitioned amongst 4 countries.It was said greece wasn't happy with her share.Also if it was kiberated why did they call it the occupied territories.Also it denied whot it had subjugated the macedonian people.Also at that time a number of greek officials were treating macedonians as macedonians in contrast to others.
Cultea you should ar least acknoeledge the truth about what happened.THe gree side is just lie upon a lie.You go & read a good reputab;e textbook & you'll see that a lot odf what we say makes sense.The greeks nrve knew what they had until they tried to counteract macedonia's claims.rLast edited by George S.; 10-23-2011, 06:47 AM."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Originally posted by cultea View PostGreece liberated Macedonia after fighting against Bulgarians, then against Turkey, then against Bulgaria again.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by cultea View PostGreece liberated MacedoniaThe one who tells the story rules the World - Hopi proverb
“Your highness, when I said that you are like a stream of bat's piss, I only meant that you shine out like a shaft of gold when all around is dark” - Monty Python
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostWould you like to explain the highlighted. You have one chance.
TREATY OF NEUILLY, AND PROTOCOL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE BRITISH EMPIRE, FRANCE, ITALY and JAPAN. These Powers being described in the present Treaty as the Principal Allied and Associated Powers; BELGIUM, CHINA, CUBA, GREECE, THE HEDJAZ, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROUMANIA, THE SERB-CROAT-SLOVENE STATE, SIAM and
Try to answer my question of post#37 (my username was thessalo-niki) for start. You have all the chances you want.
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Originally posted by cultea View PostI don’t know anyone who has officially “asked for his land back”. Why don’t you send us a letter?
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It is your state that enslaved our population you fool, all you did was take the place of the Ottomans and occupied Macedonia. You liberated nothing. But I guess it was only a matter of time before you start trying to creep in this sort of propaganda in your posts. Find somewhere else to manipulate your disgraceful actions in Macedonia as a 'liberation'.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Phoenix View PostI would argue that this is the reason greece will do whatever it takes to keep Macedonia out of the EU and NATO for that matter...its the fear of receiving those very 'letters'...at the moment I'm sure the 'greek' postal service is on strike, along with the rest of the country...
Also, Gruevski can always send an e-mail to Papandreou citing legal claims. Why not?
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Originally posted by cultea View PostIt's not!!!!
Also, Gruevski can always send an e-mail to Papandreou citing legal claims. Why not?
Since when has the modern greek state adhered to any legal ruling that may run contrary to their ambitions...?
The international community can't even get a cent of the hundreds of billions dollars of debt that it is owed, how the fuck is Gruevski going to achieve anything by sending an e-mail...lol
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Originally posted by cultea View PostLiberation means… setting free an enslaved population. For a generic discussion (about legal issues) I recommend we move it here:
TREATY OF NEUILLY, AND PROTOCOL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE BRITISH EMPIRE, FRANCE, ITALY and JAPAN. These Powers being described in the present Treaty as the Principal Allied and Associated Powers; BELGIUM, CHINA, CUBA, GREECE, THE HEDJAZ, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROUMANIA, THE SERB-CROAT-SLOVENE STATE, SIAM and
Try to answer my question of post#37 (my username was thessalo-niki) for start. You have all the chances you want.
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