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Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View PostCan you tell me when the 16 ray symbol was used as a Macedonian symbol after antiquity?
If you want to discuss something more relevant, perhaps you should tell me what the concept of a flag means to you and what the purpose of having one is.
If I we were to follow your logic, it wouldn't be too hard to justify one day putting the Albanian double-headed eagle on the 'Macedonian' state flag to appease the balisti, on the grounds that Macedonian Christians used A double-headed eagle before the Albanians did, and it can be found in various forms throughout old and new Macedonian Orthodox churches.All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostTM,
Most Macedonian "scholars" have destroyed their reputations - if they ever had any to begin with.
Until I see evidence of these finds, I won't be convinced that they exist. Even if they do, it is irrelevant, the fact that the ventilator is treason still stands.Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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Originally posted by aleksandrov View PostIf I we were to follow your logic, it wouldn't be too hard to justify one day putting the Albanian double-headed eagle on the 'Macedonian' state flag to appease the balisti, on the grounds that Macedonian Christians used A double-headed eagle before the Albanians did, and it can be found in various forms throughout old and new Macedonian Orthodox churches.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by aleksandrov View PostI could, but I won't, because your line of argument only serves to detract from the fundamental political and philosophical issues in question.
If you want to discuss something more relevant, perhaps you should tell me what the concept of a flag means to you and what the purpose of having one is.
If I we were to follow your logic, it wouldn't be too hard to justify one day putting the Albanian double-headed eagle on the 'Macedonian' state flag to appease the balisti, on the grounds that Macedonian Christians used A double-headed eagle before the Albanians did, and it can be found in various forms throughout old and new Macedonian Orthodox churches.Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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vangelovski the passage of time has consequences we cannot predict, and i am not so sure the change of flag is that important an issue in the grand scheme of things.
in politics there is an ebb and flow between success and failure and what was once a failure can end up being a great success.
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Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View PostAgain I understand your hesitation. Dr. Alekovski's email was already posted. Maybe someone would be so kind as to email him and ask him to join us and post his pics so we can see what evidence he has to offer.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by osiris View Postvangelovski the passage of time has consequences we cannot predict, and i am not so sure the change of flag is that important an issue in the grand scheme of things.
in politics there is an ebb and flow between success and failure and what was once a failure can end up being a great success.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostI'm more than happy to email him out of interest. But as I and Aleksandrov have noted, it is irrelevant whether the ventilator was invented in 1995 or 10000 BC. The fact of the matter is that it is treason.Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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Originally posted by osiris View Posttrue mak the symbols of pagan antiquity were not used in the christian world you dont need alexandrov to tell you that. the ancient macedonian flag was resurrected the past 30 years.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by osiris View Posttrue mak the symbols of pagan antiquity were not used in the christian world you dont need alexandrov to tell you that. the ancient macedonian flag was resurrected the past 30 years.Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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Originally posted by osiris View Postvangelovski in my opinion the name defines our identity and has been a constant throughout history flags coats of arms are not of the same importance.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View PostI'm not going to disagree with you. You are right. The new flag was installed due to the modern "greeks" bullshit and for the predavniks that allowed it to happen. And believe me I much prefer the 16 ray over the 8 myself. But we are spitting on a symbol that does indeed, whether you like it or not, represent the Republic of Macedonia.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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