Ventilator

[makedonche]

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;111893]SoM, I don't think Volk is trying to justify the Ventilator via the rock. I believe he believes that if Vangelovski questions the existence of the rock, then Vangelovski would embrace the Ventilator if the rock is found to be authentic.

It all comes down to the ability to comprehend ... and Vangelovski rightly pointed Volk to the first post on this thread ... which states his opinion on the matter.

I was going to comment earlier but became fascinated with my navel instead.[/QUOTE]

RTG
Hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's really funny is that you can't see it due to the forrest!

[Risto the Great]

What's really funny is that you can't see it due to the forrest!

Strangely enough, the forest is in the shape of a 16 ray sun.

[George S.]

All you need now is to make volk your shumar & think of all that money you'll make cutting your own forrest.Also that could be a money spinner selling your own grown 16 ray star forest.Millions will rollin.

[Volk]

SoM, I don't think Volk is trying to justify the Ventilator via the rock. I believe he believes that if Vangelovski questions the existence of the rock, then Vangelovski would embrace the Ventilator if the rock is found to be authentic.

It all comes down to the ability to comprehend ... and Vangelovski rightly pointed Volk to the first post on this thread ... which states his opinion on the matter.

I was going to comment earlier but became fascinated with my navel instead.

wow I am impressed Risto, I guess you were never issued with your Vangelovski goggles...

As for Vangelovski 'rightly pointing' to the first post, where in that first post does he mention a rock with an eight ray sun (being the oldest ever found)? He choses to to dismiss its authenticity because he is afraid it could be used to legitimize the flag of the government.

[George S.]

Volk are you impressed with risto's forest & how it resembles the 16 ray sun???you must be equally be impressed that it 's not a ventilator otherwise he would shave the forest off.
Next time when you go for a stroll in the forest you feel safe & good all over again protected by the golden 16 ray sun Yeehah! a sigh of releif.

[ProMKD]

Guys, we have one goal, one people, one love. Let's not make silly things cause us problems internally. United we stand!

From what I have read, EVERYONE from three pages back (volk, vojnik, SoM, RtG, Vangelovski, me, etc) all agree that the ventilator is a ventilator, and we need our Kutlesh back.

I think we can also agree that there are people that exist that believe it's ok to use the ventilator.

However, I think it's a little over-the-top to think that people are actively campaigning to promote the ventilator at the expense of the true sun/flag. In regards to my own post, I don't think that Aristotel Tentov was campaigning to promote this ventilator. As a man who studies ancient Macedonian text and other history, he is the last of all people who would accept something drawn up 15 years ago. Can we agree on this?

[Vangelovski]

wow I am impressed Risto, I guess you were never issued with your Vangelovski goggles...

As for Vangelovski 'rightly pointing' to the first post, where in that first post does he mention a rock with an eight ray sun (being the oldest ever found)? He choses to to dismiss its authenticity because he is afraid it could be used to legitimize the flag of the government.

So you do believe that a rock exists. Show me the rock.

[Risto the Great]

wow I am impressed Risto, I guess you were never issued with your Vangelovski goggles...

As for Vangelovski 'rightly pointing' to the first post, where in that first post does he mention a rock with an eight ray sun (being the oldest ever found)? He choses to to dismiss its authenticity because he is afraid it could be used to legitimize the flag of the government.

His first post talks about rejecting the Ventilator in every way. There is absolutely no room for doubt. If the rock is authentic it is irrelevant. I hope you can understand this.

Volk, would you choose the UMD over Vangelovski from an ideological perspective as it relates to Macedonian issues?

[George S.]

volk even if there was a rock what difference does it make so it's ok to capitulate & compromise because of a rock with the 8 ray star symbol.So in essence it's ok to give away
something that is macedonian that we had for millenias & take something of less importance just to please the greeks.That doesn't sound too patriotic.That is the apolegetics view to compromise their flag,This sort of thing has been unheard of in the anals of history.One country giving their symbols just to appease another country.
You ought to wake up son you can't make something white or black by capitulating.

[makedonche]

Strangely enough, the forest is in the shape of a 16 ray sun.

RTG
Hahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta be happy with that! The 16 ray sun next to the phalanx!

[julie]

RTG
Hahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta be happy with that! The 16 ray sun next to the phalanx!

You boys sure like playing with your words

[makedonche]

You boys sure like playing with your words

Julie
Not just the words!!!!!!!!!!!!

[makedonche]

Guys, we have one goal, one people, one love. Let's not make silly things cause us problems internally. United we stand!

From what I have read, EVERYONE from three pages back (volk, vojnik, SoM, RtG, Vangelovski, me, etc) all agree that the ventilator is a ventilator, and we need our Kutlesh back.

I think we can also agree that there are people that exist that believe it's ok to use the ventilator.

However, I think it's a little over-the-top to think that people are actively campaigning to promote the ventilator at the expense of the true sun/flag. In regards to my own post, I don't think that Aristotel Tentov was campaigning to promote this ventilator. As a man who studies ancient Macedonian text and other history, he is the last of all people who would accept something drawn up 15 years ago. Can we agree on this?

ProMkd
I understand what your'e saying, however this is our line in the sand, no ventilator, we don't like it, we don't support it, we don't want it, we don't condone it, we don't want it associated with anything Macedonian because it's the flag the greeks point to and say "See we told you so-they must be Slavs, we are the original Macedonians" if we hadn't changed the flag they wouldn't be arguing about who and what a Macedonian is!

[julie]

I had that one coming

[julie]

ProMkd
I understand what your'e saying, however this is our line in the sand, no ventilator, we don't like it, we don't support it, we don't want it, we don't condone it, we don't want it associated with anything Macedonian because it's the flag the greeks point to and say "See we told you so-they must be Slavs, we are the original Macedonians" if we hadn't changed the flag they wouldn't be arguing about who and what a Macedonian is!

Agree ProMkd, but its important for everyone to be consistent where the ventilator is concerned. We can't have that it is ok in some situations, its zero tolerance where our very identity is at stake today