Solun mayor Boutaris favors name "Slavomacedonia"

[Carlin]

ЈАНИС БУТАРИС СЕ ГОРДЕЕ СО ПРЕДЦИТЕ ВЛАСИ ОД КРУШЕВО

16 ноември 2017

URL:

https://sdk.mk/index.php/magazin/janis-butaris-se-gordee-predtsite-vlasi-od-krushevo/

Солунскиот градоначалник Јанис Бутарис пред 4 години првпат како градоначалник дојде во официјална посета на Македонија и тогаш ја македонската јавност откри дека има влашки корени, од Крушево. Бутарис, во разговор за сега згаснатиот весник „Вест“, тогаш рече дека неговите врски со Македонија се сентиментални, не само поради потеклото на мајка му и неговиот дедо по татко кои потекнуваат од Крушево, туку и поради многубројните пријатели.

„Врските со семејството во Крушево со време се изгубени, но јас трипати бев да ги посетам. Ја видов и куќата на мојот дедо. Бев многу горд. Тоа се моите корени“, рече тој.

Бутарис е роден во Солун пред 75 години, син на винарот Стелиос Бутарис и Фани Влахос, Влаинка од семејството Ничота од Крушево. Дипломирал хемија на Универзитетот Аристотел во Солун, а магистрирал енологија на Институтот за вино во Атина. Речиси 30 години работел во семејната винарија „Бутари“, а во 1998 ја формира сопствена та винарија „Кир-Јани“.

При посетатата на Македонија во декември, 2013 со љубов зборуваше за убавините на Крушево и за успехот на луѓето од градот.

„Годинава учествував на прогласување на најдобар студент од Американскиот колеџ во Солун. Не знаев дека тоа ќе биде студентка од Крушево. Бев многу горд на нејзиниот успех“, рече тој.

Тој рече дека никогаш не крие дека неговите родители се Власи, но жали што не го зборува јазикот на неговите предци. Тој со иста страст зборуваше и за пријателите во Македонија, успешни бизнисмени, како што е Штерјо Наков, кого го знае уште од 1991.

Бутарис тогаш рече дека себеси не се смета за политичар туку само за градоначалник и дека во иднина очекува не само Грците да инвестираат во Скопје, туку и македонските бизнисмени во Солун.

[Carlin]

You sound like you know a lot more about him than I do Carlin but "his father's family originates from the town of Moscopole, now in Albania", according to Wikipedia.

I don't know any more than you do, it's all on Wikipedia / online. : ) They seem to originate from Moscopole but so do the Krusevo Vlachs - all of them.

The Moscopole claim of descent of many Vlach communities has assumed mythical and legendary proportions nowadays.

[Amphipolis]

Macedonia has a long tragic history with the Turk, yet Bitola has a museum dedicated to Ataturk. It has boosted relationship with the Turks and i'm sure it has benefited the city through tourism to some extent, financially.

This museum was welcomed by everybody in Bitola. It just shows how civilized we are. We don't forget, but we forgive.

We’re not ungrateful. Thessaloniki also celebrates Ataturk's achievements with a monument on Pontic Genocide.

[Karposh]

His mother is from Krushevo, and his father is from Neveska.

His Vlach great-great-grandfather from Neveska, Ioannis Boutaris, was one of the Founders of Nea Filiki Etaireia - a Greek revolutionary organization founded in 1867 under the name Национален комитет (Εθνική Επιτροπή). The organization was founded in Pisoderi (a Vlach village), located 17 km west of Lerin/Florina.

The leading founders of this organization were all Vlachophones: Anastasios Piheon from Ohrid, Nikolaos Filipidis from Malovishte, Ioannis Argiropoulos (born in Bogatsko, village near Kostur), I. Boutaris, etc.

Many members of this organization were Macedonians as well, such as Dame Kusev from Prilep and others from the same town.

You sound like you know a lot more about him than I do Carlin but "his father's family originates from the town of Moscopole, now in Albania", according to Wikipedia.

[Bill77]

An Ataturk tourist attracting would be great in my opinion, it makes sense as the man was from there. Nationalists of course will call it out for promoting a Turkish figure and once-again deny the multicultural history of the city. Notice Macedonian nationalists don't attack sites dedicated to Mother Teresa in Skopje.

Macedonia has a long tragic history with the Turk, yet Bitola has a museum dedicated to Ataturk. It has boosted relationship with the Turks and i'm sure it has benefited the city through tourism to some extent, financially.

This museum was welcomed by everybody in Bitola. It just shows how civilized we are. We don't forget, but we forgive.

[Amphipolis]

I wonder if he ever trully recovered from his alcoholism problem. He sounds like he's drunk all the time.

This is just how he sounds (you can hardly understand what he's saying). Yes, he has fully recovered, and as many former alcoholics he doesn't drink a drop.

[tchaiku]

His mother is from Krushevo, and his father is from Neveska.

His Vlach great-great-grandfather from Neveska, Ioannis Boutaris, was one of the Founders of Nea Filiki Etaireia - a Greek revolutionary organization founded in 1867 under the name Национален комитет (Εθνική Επιτροπή). The organization was founded in Pisoderi (a Vlach village), located 17 km west of Lerin/Florina.

The leading founders of this organization were all Vlachophones: Anastasios Piheon from Ohrid, Nikolaos Filipidis from Malovishte, Ioannis Argiropoulos (born in Bogatsko, village near Kostur), I. Boutaris, etc.

Many members of this organization were Macedonians as well, such as Dame Kusev from Prilep and others from the same town.

Argiropoulos Vlach?

[Carlin]

He's neither a native Greek nor a Pontian Turk. His mum and dad are Vlachs from Krushevo. That's why he doesn't give a shit about either.

His mother is from Krushevo, and his father is from Neveska.

His Vlach great-great-grandfather from Neveska, Ioannis Boutaris, was one of the Founders of Nea Filiki Etaireia - a Greek revolutionary organization founded in 1867 under the name Национален комитет (Εθνική Επιτροπή). The organization was founded in Pisoderi (a Vlach village), located 17 km west of Lerin/Florina.

The leading founders of this organization were all Vlachophones: Anastasios Piheon from Ohrid, Nikolaos Filipidis from Malovishte, Ioannis Argiropoulos (born in Bogatsko, village near Kostur), I. Boutaris, etc.

Many members of this organization were Macedonians as well, such as Dame Kusev from Prilep and others from the same town.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

His words "I don't give a shit if he Killed or not Greeks" is an attack on both Greeks and Turks imo. His job as the Solun mayor is to improve the cities tourism/economy and by opening an Ataturk tourist attraction would be beneficial for his city. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a backlash from nationalists to this Ataturk opening (can't understand exactly what was opened of his) and his response would have been based on condemnation he received.

An Ataturk tourist attracting would be great in my opinion, it makes sense as the man was from there. Nationalists of course will call it out for promoting a Turkish figure and once-again deny the multicultural history of the city. Notice Macedonian nationalists don't attack sites dedicated to Mother Teresa in Skopje.

[Karposh]

What is Boutaris's paternal origins? Refugee? Or native? If he is the later case then that's fair enough if he doesn't care about what happened to the Asia minor Greeks...

He's neither a native Greek nor a Pontian Turk. His mum and dad are Vlachs from Krushevo. That's why he doesn't give a shit about either.

[Bill77]

What is Boutaris's paternal origins? Refugee? Or native? If he is the later case then that's fair enough if he doesn't care about what happened to the Asia minor Greeks...

His words "I don't give a shit if he Killed or not Greeks" is an attack on both Greeks and Turks imo. His job as the Solun mayor is to improve the cities tourism/economy and by opening an Ataturk tourist attraction would be beneficial for his city. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a backlash from nationalists to this Ataturk opening (can't understand exactly what was opened of his) and his response would have been based on condemnation he received.

[Bill77]

This interview is available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToBEPGPbmME

I understood it as he doesn't give a shit about the squabbles amongst Greeks and Turks regarding the past. He is trying to come across as a progressive, a reformer. What is wrong with that?

[maco2envy]

What is Boutaris's paternal origins? Refugee? Or native? If he is the later case then that's fair enough if he doesn't care about what happened to the Asia minor Greeks...

[Amphipolis]

You should have posted the entire interview for the sake of greater context and clarity...Boutaris holds views that run against decades of systematic state indoctrination that has created small minded greeks...you and the rest simply can't deal with that.

This interview is available here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToBEPGPbmME

[Phoenix]

Cause and effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFt38_cku9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=846sTN7kcdc

You should have posted the entire interview for the sake of greater context and clarity...Boutaris holds views that run against decades of systematic state indoctrination that has created small minded greeks...you and the rest simply can't deal with that.