Solun mayor Boutaris favors name "Slavomacedonia"

[Amphipolis]

Cause and effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFt38_cku9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=846sTN7kcdc

[makedonche]

This is indeed very important. Boutaris is a local legend and everybody knew his name because of his wine (he's a winemaker). Furthermore, before his first election he had slowly built an excellent low profile of a successful “left” businessman that was involved in the city issues in various ways. His attitude, his personal drama (a winemaker that was a destroyed alcoholic in the 80s and made a comeback) everything helped.

After his election he gradually became more like a... rock star. Note: These are real pictures of him.

Amphipolis
That being the case it speaks volumes for the idiots who voted him in, they would be far better served by someone more qualified and knowledgeable as opposed to racist, narrow minded and confused about his true identity, in short.........in denial.........like most Greeks!

[Soldier of Macedon]

SOM
Happy with the title of the thread? Happy for the use of Solun in the heading and then Thessaloniki in the text? You might be, but I certainly am not, send this gjuptin on his way!

I didn't say I was happy with the title of the thread. I said I was OK with the post he made because it was pertinent to the original thread topic. I don't like these type of topics any more than the next Macedonian, but they are important because they expose the racism of Greek politicians. As I said earlier, if it develops into an advertisement page for this idiot then things will change. Until then, carry on with your discussions.

[spitfire]

I wonder if he ever trully recovered from his alcoholism problem. He sounds like he's drunk all the time.

[Amphipolis]

This indicates to me that popularity is a greater prerequisite for political success, a very unhealthy situation, look where it's got the country so far!

This is indeed very important. Boutaris is a local legend and everybody knew his name because of his wine (he's a winemaker). Furthermore, before his first election he had slowly built an excellent low profile of a successful “left” businessman that was involved in the city issues in various ways. His attitude, his personal drama (a winemaker that was a destroyed alcoholic in the 80s and made a comeback) everything helped.

After his election he gradually became more like a... rock star. Note: These are real pictures of him.

[spitfire]

Spifire

So who is this clown..... Anthimos of Thessaloniki?

The bishop of Thessaloniki. In Greece the juristictions are under two autocephalous churches. Thessaloniki "belongs" to Constantinople therefore there can't be an archbishop in Thessaloniki because the archbishop is in Constantinople. Athens "belongs" to the church of Greece, it has an archbishop.

You bring up a religious person and a mayor. They may use the media, they may influence people because of their popularity but they are not deciding about anything in politics.
A member of the cabinet or an MP are political personas with political influence in Greece. The system with the mayors is very different to other countries. Local authorities are hardly authorities. They simply manage the money from the state for their town.
In other countries, local authorities may be very important, because they have power over many things, but not in Greece.

[makedonche]

There is no church of Solun. He is a bishop. Thessaloniki is under the patriarch of Constantinople, therefore under a different person who is archbishop. Macedonia, Thrace, Epirus and Crete too. The church of Greece has a different archbishop and a different juristiction.

Boutaris is of no political significance, like any other mayor. Using his popularity for inflicting upon people's minds is a different matter.
He is not important nor does he have any say in political matters through his thesis.

Spifire

So who is this clown..... Anthimos of Thessaloniki?

[spitfire]

I see....so who is the head of the largest church in Solun?

There is no church of Solun. He is a bishop. Thessaloniki is under the patriarch of Constantinople, therefore under a different person who is archbishop. Macedonia, Thrace, Epirus and Crete too. The church of Greece has a different archbishop and a different juristiction.

Boutaris is of no political significance, like any other mayor. Using his popularity for inflicting upon people's minds is a different matter.
He is not important nor does he have any say in political matters through his thesis.

[Amphipolis]

He's clearly a very adept politician, he panders to the greek psyche...the xenophobia, chauvinism, racism, fascism and ingrained discrimination that defines the average greek...

Hint: You're not very close. That is the type of photo-shops one can find if he googles Boutaris.

The vlah from Krushevo will sell his own mother if needed... lowlife mofu

His relation to Krushovo is exaggerated. It is the Nitsiotas family that comes from Krushovo and was very important there until their house was destroyed in 1903. This is the family of his grant-mother (paternal side). The Nitsiotas were important businessmen (6 brothers) and Kyriakos Nitsiotas also significantly contributed in the Boutaris Company around (probably) 1920s.

[George S.]

What has cheese got to do with running a city like solun.Obviously if he was elected as mayor then he should be able to do his job.Maybe if he is not upto it he better start eating some of that magic white cheese called fetta.I know we got auistralian cheese made up from cows milk.Its a nice less fat than the fetta cheese.There is a saying the way to a mans heart is through the food.So eat up and be merry for tommorrow you may not be mayor but out on the street.I hope its not as bad as that.

[makedonche]

Spitfire

A mayor is not a significant person in greece. It's not the same as the mayor in a US city.
Unless you think that managing the sewer system of a city is of major political importance.
And I'm not even sure if the sewers are in a mayor's juristiction in greece. Probably not.

If he's elected, then its a political process with political implications, which bestows upon him a minimum standard of behaviour, I look forward to him getting even close to the minimum standard one day! If being a mayor in Greece has no significance, then neither should his comments, yet I see he makes the mainstream press? I hope is in charge of the sewerage system, it would be a befitting role for him and a true reflection of his character, but also a poor reflection on Greece and the people who voted him in.

Good at being a mayor.

Please tell me this is an attempt at humour!

He is a bishop. This means that he is not the head of any church.

I see....so who is the head of the largest church in Solun?

For a product to be Protected designation of origin there has to be a good reason

And that would be? in the case of feta?

Good luck with white cheese made from cow milk. From it's color I think it should be called chinese cheese.
From it's taste, I think it should be called shit!

Never touch the stuff, only eat the white cheese made from sheeps milk and or goats milk.

[spitfire]

Spitfire
Not political, how is that possible? Or have you and your kin invented another type of democracy the world doesn't know about yet?

The significance I have seen first hand, take for example Mayor Juliani of New York!

A mayor is not a significant person in greece. It's not the same as the mayor in a US city.
Unless you think that managing the sewer system of a city is of major political importance.
And I'm not even sure if the sewers are in a mayor's juristiction in greece. Probably not.

Good at what? Narrowminded racist uneducated comments?

Good at being a mayor.

It's not, stop making shit up and read the comment again, the Arch Bishop (whatever he calls himself) can be of help to this delusional non political supposed mayor! Then you'll need someone else to help the Arch Bishop with his mental problems as well!

He is a bishop. This means that he is not the head of any church.

It's still white cheese no matter what you imbeciles try to call it and then try to get the EU to validate your ridiculous name protection claims.......comical....the liars protecting the liars...they should start an international circus, maybe call it Cirque de Bullshit.

For a product to be Protected designation of origin there has to be a good reason.
Good luck with white cheese made from cow milk. From it's color I think it should be called chinese cheese.
From it's taste, I think it should be called shit!

[makedonche]

Spitfire

Thessalonikians have a tradition of voting for canditates that are peculiar in character.

Not political, how is that possible? Or have you and your kin invented another type of democracy the world doesn't know about yet?

What makes you think a mayor is of any major significance?

The significance I have seen first hand, take for example Mayor Juliani of New York!

[QUOTEHe has a peculiar character but this doesn't mean he's not good in what he was elected for][/QUOTE]

Good at what? Narrowminded racist uneducated comments?

How on heaven and earth is the church related to this subject at all?

It's not, stop making shit up and read the comment again, the Arch Bishop (whatever he calls himself) can be of help to this delusional non political supposed mayor! Then you'll need someone else to help the Arch Bishop with his mental problems as well!

Just like white cheese, when you call it feta.

It's still white cheese no matter what you imbeciles try to call it and then try to get the EU to validate your ridiculous name protection claims.......comical....the liars protecting the liars...they should start an international circus, maybe call it Cirque de Bullshit.

[spitfire]

Spitfire
If this is the calibre of candidates for the Mayoral position of Solun, the city will need some serious help, perhaps from the Arch Bishop of the main church there, he's also kown for his intelligent outbursts!

A mayor is not a political person in greece. Try to think of a mayor as someone who struggles to find money to pay for the services required for a city to run.

What makes you think a mayor is of any major significance? He has a peculiar character but this doesn't mean he's not good in what he was elected for.

How on heaven and earth is the church related to this subject at all? There is no church of Thessaloniki nor an Archbishop. It' a bishop under the Constantinople Patriarch who is an Archbishop. You got it all mixed.
Just like white cheese, when you call it feta.

[makedonche]

It's not popularity. It's a better man for the job, compared to his rivals. So far that is.
As for the people in Thessaloniki, they know better than me who the best mayor is for their city. I don't like him but I don't live there.

Spitfire
If this is the calibre of candidates for the Mayoral position of Solun, the city will need some serious help, perhaps from the Arch Bishop of the main church there, he's also kown for his intelligent outbursts!