Albanianization in Macedonia

[julie]

The USA should implement arabic languages in their schools, and have countless minarets adorn their scenery and then I will agree with their fucked up policies on assimilation, pitchkamu majka di edna

[Soldier of Macedon]

The USA should implement arabic languages in their schools, and have countless minarets adorn their scenery and then I will agree with their fucked up policies......

An even better parallel would be for all American children to learn Spanish, and for places like California to become autonomous provinces where all street signs are in Spanish alongside English.

[Niko777]

The Eagle as big as the Sun

After 3 months, Albanian mayors continue to ignore new flag law



Read article here > http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/default.as...C2271B6854F407

[Vangelovski]

An even better parallel would be for all American children to learn Spanish, and for places like California to become autonomous provinces where all street signs are in Spanish alongside English.

Actually, in most places Spanish is part of the curriculum and many street signs are in Spanish. But at the end of the day, as a free and sovereign people, it is really up to the Americans on how they deal with these issues and they certainly exercise their freedom/sovereignty in these matters, whereas in Macedonia, Macedonians are forced into accepting terrorist demands.

[Vangelovski]

The USA should implement arabic languages in their schools, and have countless minarets adorn their scenery and then I will agree with their fucked up policies on assimilation, pitchkamu majka di edna

I would love for Macedonia to replicate the US at a minimum. I think you are getting confused as to what the US actually does opposed to what the US "recommends" for Macedonia.

[George S.]

main thing is how can macedonia put up with such rebellion as the flags issue.That's a slap in the face to the macedonians for not doing anything to stop them>if they don't fly the macedonian flag then that is enough for the govt to do something.This is a test of macedonian sovereignity.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Actually, in most places Spanish is part of the curriculum and many street signs are in Spanish.

Is there already a law that obligates most American children to learn Spanish, or is this based on what Obama said? As for the Spanish street signs, they aren't all over the country, only in places that are near the Mexican border, but I guess that doesn't bother me as much as forcing the majority to learn the language of a minority. In my opinion, learning more than one language enriches a person, but it should be their decision. Here is something interesting, but not sure about the validity of the website:

http://costonscomplaint.blogspot.com/2010/01/spanish-language-road-signs-in-american.html

A man from Arlington, Texas received a ticket for not being able to read a sign that was written in Spanish.

While street signs in the language of a minority aren't that bad (only in some circumstances) if they are accompanied by one in the language of the majority, the above example in the link is just plain stupid.

[Soldier of Macedon]

This may have already been posted here:

http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=7B54004B3D5FB340B1B7A594C7F3AAE2

19.08.2010, 11:00

ВО ОПШТИНИТЕ КАДЕ ШТО МАКЕДОНЦИТЕ СЕ МАЛЦИНСТВО

Кампањи за учење албански јазик

Во општините каде што македонското население е малцинство ќе се водат кампањи за изучување на јазикот на мнозинското население.

Ова вчера го најави министерот за образование и наука Никола Тодоров, како дел од стратегијата за интегрирано образование која Министерството за образование и наука ја спроведува во соработка со ОБСЕ.

Со цел да се спроведе целосна интеграција во образованието, министерот Тодоров ги најави кампањите како неопходни за изучување на албанскиот јазик и јазикот на другите националности.

"Македонците кои учат во албански училишта и во средини каде што доминираат други националности може, но не е задолжително да учат на нивниот јазик. Затоа ние ќе организираме кампањи за изучување на албанскиот јазик и јазикот на другите доминантни националности, бидејќи интеграцијата во образованието е пресудна за целосна интеграција во општеството", изјави Тодоров. (М.Ѓ.)

[Niko777]

Today, the Macedonian government installed a 30-meter state flag in Struga. They are calling it a victory, but what kind of victory is it when (a) it was a ventilator, and (b) they had to install the flag on the property of the city police station because the local Albanian authorities did not allow such a thing on public space?

[George S.]

nikko they are so scaresd shitless of the albanians they can't even maintain law & order.Tell me of a country you can't even fly your own flag for fear of some minority.

[Risto the Great]

Today, the Macedonian government installed a 30-meter state flag in Struga. They are calling it a victory, but what kind of victory is it when (a) it was a ventilator, and (b) they had to install the flag on the property of the city police station because the local Albanian authorities did not allow such a thing on public space?

What can we say about this Niko?
(a) Macedonians did not vote for the ventilator (however they have effectively supported it by not protesting against it)
(b) Macedonians wanted the local ethnic Albanians to have more say when the referendum failed. What did they think the ethnic Albanians would have wanted?

If the Macedonian government indeed calls this a "victory" (I would like to see more about this btw) it is a a clear indication that the local ethnic Albanian authorities in power are in fact enemies of Macedonia.

[Big Bad Sven]

Today, the Macedonian government installed a 30-meter state flag in Struga. They are calling it a victory, but what kind of victory is it when (a) it was a ventilator, and (b) they had to install the flag on the property of the city police station because the local Albanian authorities did not allow such a thing on public space?

The silly thing is that the gutless Macedonian government and too a lesser extent the Macedonian citizens are too scared to stand up to minority that is only 17% of the population in the country.

They should keep sticking their heads in the sand and hoping they will all get into the EU one day, everything will then fix itself and we will all have a happy ending

[ProMKD]

I would like to see more about this being called a 'victory'. The government plan was presented a couple of years ago to install 100 very large flags/flagpoles in various obvious locations across the country. These are noticeable atop mount Vodno in Skopje, Strazha rest stop between Gostivar-Kicevo, in Kicevo I believe along the main road, and many many other locations. I don't think it would be any 'victory' or 'surprise' to the people of Struga or the government that this was done.

I have been in Struga many times, including recently, and there are many Macedonian flags all over the place. To get to the village of Vevchani from Struga you have to drive through an albanian village that has some shiptar flags along the electrical poles, then you get to the city or Vevchani and the Macedonian flags reappear.

[ProMKD]

I would like to see more about this being called a 'victory'. The government plan was presented a couple of years ago to install 100 very large flags/flagpoles in various obvious locations across the country. These are noticeable atop mount Vodno in Skopje, Strazha rest stop between Gostivar-Kicevo, in Kicevo I believe along the main road, and many many other locations. I don't think it would be any 'victory' or 'surprise' to the people of Struga or the government that this was done.

I have been in Struga many times, including recently, and there are many Macedonian flags all over the place. To get to the village of Vevchani from Struga you have to drive through an albanian village that has some shiptar flags along the electrical poles, then you get to the city or Vevchani and the Macedonian flags reappear.

[Niko777]

Sorry for not being clear, it was after reading people's comments from some articles that I got the impression that this was a "victory". Some were making comments like "pozdrav do Gruevski" or "chestitka do vladata" for installing the flag.

BTW I have found other past articles that the government did the same thing for the cities of Tetovo and Gostivar, which I was unaware of, that they installed the flag near the police stations. In these cities the police stations are not near the central square and cannot be seen from the center. In Gostivar the mayor already made comments like the flag is illegal because it did not have a proper permit from the municipality................ I wonder if the hundreds of mosques built in Macedonia have any permit?