World Macedonian Diaspora

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Zoran Lozevski has worked very hard in promoting this wonderful event and continues to tirelessly work for our people, a wonderful man, with no ego, and an inspiration to all that meet him

I know that silly lady .. xoxoxo

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am the queen of silly apparently

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am the queen of silly apparently

I don't like to share my Royalty

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UPDATE: PLEASE NOTE THE DATE CHANGE - Sunday May 22, 2011


Look, for information on the Macedonian tour in the coming weeks here.

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http://makedonskakafana.com/canadian_macedonian_place.html

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MPO

I continue to monitor the Macedonian Patriotic Organization (MPO) very closely and I see some very positive results on their website and there is very little in the way of Bulgarian propaganda as we had seen in the past.

They still should NOT be trusted under any circumstances and I hope one day soon they will break away from the Macedono- Bulgarian Church's completely and truly be .. Macedonia for the Macedonians.

http://www.macedonian.org/default.asp

Does, anyone know which flags they fly at their events and conventions?

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Does, anyone know which flags they fly at their events and conventions?

Ask the UMD.

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Ask the UMD.

I don't think Meto has ever attended an event; however, I may be wrong? If, I'm not mistaken I believe it's the American, Canadian and MPO flag and not the "Ventilator" or "Sonce" ?

Unless, they use the real Macedonian flag they can't be considered Macedonians.

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Who should be the president?

YouTube - MTO UMD 1

Watch, the body language.

YouTube - MTO UMD 2

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Macedonian is not Greece’s business

By J.S.G. Gandeto


Once again, the forefront for dissemination of the Greek version of history in Australia, the so-called Advisory Council, who are neither Macedonians nor have any clue about advising, have managed to show their ugly head by attacking Victor Friedman, a prominent and well respected academic scholar from University of Chicago, for speaking the truth about the Macedonian language.

Their attempt to denigrate and insult anyone who disagrees with their artificially created and hysterically defended mythological nation is nothing new; Greeks have a long list of "national enemies" whose views are regarded as "dangerous" to the Hellenic Republic and must, at all cost, be suppressed or eliminated. Here, without much consternation, the names of Anastasia Karakasidou who wrote/admitted that "ethnic Macedonians exist in Greece", Ernst Badian who stated that "Ancient Macedonians neither viewed themselves as Greeks nor were they viewed by the ancient Greeks as such", Eugene Borza's statement that "Ancient Macedonians were a distinct and separate people from the ancient Greeks", their own son Caragatsis who stated that "it is an illusion to think that Ancient Macedonians were Greeks" and professor Friedman's views on the Macedonian language as separate and a uniquely different than either Serbian or Bulgarian language and many more, can be mentioned as such examples.

Their xenophobic attitude towards scholars, whose knowledge and analysis of history markedly differs from their own, stems from the fact that some Greeks in general and ultra nationalist Greeks in particular, have a distorted perception of "selves". Any uncovered truths about their highly checkered past, for which they have failed to adequately "create" a timely saleable version of the historical events, presents an unbridgeable gap and is perceived as dangerously calamitous for the well-being of their nation. Perhaps, their knee- jerk reaction to anything that runs contrary to their own school-imbued and preachers-enforced education is a result of their insecurities about their own nation-building process.

When one is constantly reminded about its own nationality, when one is being measured on the values of Greekness and is being graded on perceived adherence to these nationally prescribed norms, then one is being weighed and evaluated on the retention of those "learned" parameters. Thus, the perceived or imagined erosion in the strengths of these national "pillars" triggers periodically enforced teachings and timely disciplined reminders. This, in the final analysis, reminds one of the weaknesses and the porosity of the Greek position: They have to invent national enemies in order to maintain structural cohesiveness in their artificially created state. Without such national enemies the apparent Greek unity will easily dissolve. Their historiography resembles a chameleon; it changes colors with the political winds of the time. The lies propagated for so long have finally reached the crashing end; the new lies that need to replace the original ones (whose usefulness the Greek state fully exploited for many years), need to be much more sophisticated, highly polished, firmly planted and more encompassing in order to be able to withstand much more vigorous scrutiny and do their intended job. However, creating bigger lies entails rewriting history and any attempt to redefine historical events and finagle empirical data is a treacherous business wroth with danger.

There is too much literary evidence available to be successfully manipulated and an overwhelming body of incontrovertible knowledge at public disposal that can- not possibly be overlooked. The task is monumental even for such skillful fabricators as the Greeks them- selves. The end is fast approaching and with it comes unforeseen consequences. Certainly, the rules under which the Greeks operated in the past have changed, so have the players. The truth, as a useful currency, has been devaluated to such an extent that the Greek government must now create a new divergent counterfeit currency in order to successfully steer public opinion in a new direction. Greece sees Macedonia as such a ploy where Greek passion for the "motherland", cultivated and nurtured for decades, can once more be played out and used as a political catalytic converter.

But even Macedonia is not such a sure bet anymore; there are numerous dissenting opinions within Greece itself; the ethnic Macedonians whose existence Greece openly denies, are becoming emboldened in their fight for basic human freedom. Europe is becoming much more receptive to the plight of these "unrecognized" minorities and many informed Europeans are getting frustrated with Greece 's bullying tactics and irresponsible behavior. The global economy tends to deemphasize the existing borders and fosters greater openness and cooperation between nations. New archeological artifacts bring new evidence to the forefront and compel scholars to reexamine their conclusions. The spotlight is on Greece and she can choose to come out clean, grant full human rights to the ethnic Macedonians with- in her border and allow them to speak and study under their maternal tongue or hide under the veil of new lies and fabrications, alienate herself from the modern democracies in Europe and thereby sink deeper into the darkened abyss.

Greece has no right to deny the ethnic Macedonians living in Greece their basic human rights as people. Greece can not stake a claim on the name Macedonia with which she got connected to as recently as 1912 with the spoils of the Balkan Wars. Greece has no right to claim the ancient Macedonians with whom she has no connection at all. The ancient Macedonians enslaved Greece and kept it under their rule until the coming of the Romans. When Rome defeated the Macedonians, Rome liberated the Greeks. Greeks cannot claim the Ancient Macedonian greatness; literary evidence cannot support such an elusive act. Ancient Macedonian great- ness does not belong to them. Greeks should educate themselves first and foremost before passing judgment on others. Listening to the ancient Greeks can do wonders for their inflated and empty ego. The ancient Greeks left a plethora of incorruptible evidence of who was Greek and who was Macedonian in antiquity. The statements from the ancient Greeks and the ancient Macedonians speak much louder than today's Greeks convoluted interpretations and self-centered opinion. Greece 's crocodile tears for Macedonia are too salty for her own palate. Greece should leave the Republic of Macedonia alone to pursue her own European integration unimpeded. Greece should not dig a grave for the Macedonians. The cultural genocide they have inflicted on the Macedonians living in Greece will never be forgotten.

The Macedonians though, will prevail with her or without her. She should focus on her own destiny as a nation and stop its irresponsible, virulent attack on anything Macedonian. Greece 's position is whimsically constructed, rests on precarious constructs and cannot withstand an iota of historical scientific scrutiny. It seems that all foreigners know Greece 's history except the Greeks themselves. I presume artificiality breeds insecurities and thus by implication, nervousness and fear and that is a sure sign of a thieving nation.

Instead of focusing on distorting the truth about the Republic of Macedonia they should worry about their own historiography which resembles a coat of many colors. Theirs is a history invented to serve a political purpose which eventually will succumb under the weight of its own artificially created shield. It contains too many large gaping holes for which the creators have no plausible explanations; one cannot hope to go the distance on borrowed time. Ideological platforms based on historical cover-ups and nurtured with distortions and half-truths are bound to suffer a premature and an unwanted end. Manipulating public opinion for political gains is as collusive as is treacherous, and at the end is perilously dangerous. This Australian front that propagates this kind of nonsense is nothing but "Aristotelis" in disguise whose function in Aegean Macedonia, (yes, the occupied part of Macedonia ) was to spy on ethic Macedonians and suppress their ethnic aspirations. Their actions are transparent and their aim is pathetic. Their writings are venomous and lack cognitive substance. It is disgusting to see them evoke the passage written by Schlesinger: They wrote:

"Unfortunately many of the authoritative views of the American academic establishment do not follow Arthur Schlesinger advice about the purpose of history in their writings:

Schlesinger wrote:

"The purpose of history is to promote not group self-esteem, but understanding of the world and the past, dispassionate analysis, judgment and perspective, respect for diver- gent cultures and traditions, and unflinching protection for those unifying ideas of tolerance, democracy, and human rights that make free historical inquiry possible."

How pitifully hypocritical it sounds coming from a Greek group who disseminates lies, fabrications, uses malice and promotes hate. You have the audacity to quote a person who writes about respect of divergent cultures and traditions, while you and the government you write for denies the existence of the ethnic Macedonians in Greece . You who have forbade the Macedonians living in Greece to use their own mother's tongue and persecuted them for even uttering a word to their domestic animals in Macedonian. You accuse others for lack of tolerance and democracy and of human rights? Do you even know how abhorrent it sounds coming from you? I wonder where it starts. Where are the logic and the common sense? Is it your inability to comprehend the written word or is it your negligence to consider others as your equal that drives your arrogance and pomposity? If the truth were a runaway locomotive and bears straight at you, would you be able to recognize it?

Instead promoting KKK ideology, you should turn around and embrace the Republic of Macedonia . She is the only true friend you have in the region. Think again and envision what would be like for Greece if Macedonia becomes what you wished her to become; you will be surrounded by your worst nightmare. Cherish the fact that you have the ethnic Macedonians in Greece still peaceful and civilized. Extend to them what is only theirs to begin with; their human rights as citizens of Greece . After all, your house is not made of glass, is it?

I will leave you with this passage in hope that it may elicit some sobering thoughts:

Why would the ancient Greeks not agree with your lies?

Read:

“When the news of his death reached Greece , revolts against the Macedonian authority broke out everywhere. Theban exiles in Athens organized a force of patriots and besieged the Macedonian garrison in the Cadmea. In Athens itself where many had prayed for an end to Alexander; the anti Macedonian party, feeling that its prayers had been heard crowned themselves with garlands and feasted over the death of him whom they had courted as a god --singing, says Plutarch, "triumphant songs and victory, as it by their own valor they had vanquished him".

The very last sentence is terribly telling:

"Triumphant songs and victory, as it by their own valor they had vanquished him".

Well, then, would you say that Alexander was a Greek king?

Why would his loyal subjects exult and feast, singing adorned with garlands upon the news that “their" king has died?

Is there any similar example in the annals of the recorded history where a nation goes into a wild celebration upon hearing the news that their king has died?

Aren't you the only country in the world that celebrates its conqueror?

Does it make any sense to sing triumphantly when your leader, the king who would "secure the frontiers for Greece ", vanquishes from the face of the earth?

Final question; How come we did not find any similar celebrations in any Macedonian cities at the time?

Memorable encounter (36):

"The Colonels, as it happened, promoted Alexander as a great Greek hero, especially to army recruits: the Greeks of the fourth century BC, to whom Alexander was a half-Macedonian, half-Epirote barbarian conqueror; would have found this metamorphosis as ironic as I did." (Peter Green Alexander of Macedon 356- 323 B.C. A Historical Biography" xv).


The Theft of a King – Who Stole Alexander
ISBN: 978-1-4327-6856-0
Publisher: Outskirts Press, Inc.

By Gandeto, J.S.G.

1. What is the book about?

The book centers on Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians’ ethnicity. It elaborates topics related to the differences between the ancient Macedonians and the ancient Greeks and attempts to dispel the modern notion – one originating in the 19th century and thereafter propagated by some western authors – that ancient Macedonians “were” Greeks. Also, in the book the reader will find glimpses of today’s dispute between the Republic of Macedonia and Greece regarding the name of the Republic of Macedonia, in essence, what lies hidden behind this carefully orchestrated Greek problem with the name. Readers will have a chance to get acquainted with modern-day Balkan politics where deep-rooted historical intrigues, stereotyping and ingrained prejudices do justice for tolerance and rational thought.

The book offers glimpses into our continuous struggle to return Alexander to his rightful place - among his Macedonian kinsmen. Yes, it is a feeble voice in the dark, but a voice nevertheless, that isn't going to die any time soon. Through the topics discussed in the book, the reader will have a chance to see and understand the other side of the story. In the words of Marquez Garcia, "Our enemies have crushed many roses before but they haven't succeeded in stopping the spring from coming."

Compelling questions:
..If Alexander the Great was a Greek king, why would he dismiss his own "Greek" troops in the middle of his Asian campaign in 330 B.C.? (Arr. III.19.6-7; Plut. Al. 42.5; Diod. XVII.74.3-4; Curt. VI.2.17).

Why would Greeks in the mainland, supposedly his own people, rebel against him?

Why would the Greeks call the Lamian War a "Hellenic War" if they were fighting the Macedonians?

2. Why did you decide to write it?

My main objective was twofold: to bring to the forefront the differences between the ancient Macedonians and the ancient Greeks and to shed some light on much overlooked and, by some authors largely ignored, facts about the ethnicity of the ancient Macedonians.

I could no longer stay silent in lieu of such incontrovertible evidence left to us from the ancient chronographers that clearly distinguished and separated the ancient Macedonians from the ancient Greeks. I felt compelled to respond to the blatant and dishonest manipulation of historical evidence in order to circumvent and subvert the universally declared human rights covenants and obligations.

3. How did you get your book published?

A friend of mine suggested Outskirts Press as a reputable vehicle to reach my audience; I’m glad I did.

4. What types of readers will be interested in your book?

I would be happy if today’s younger generation gets a “whiff” of the twisted political winds in the Balkan and understand how distortions and manipulations of historical facts can be used for political gains.

5. What is special about your book? What differentiates it from other books in the same category?

What separates this book from other books in the same category is the blunt straight forward – no gloves – attitude. There is no glossing over, no need to look for clues hidden in between the lines or sugar-coating politically correct terms. If I have perceived historical distortions being sold as fact, I have described them as lies; if unsupported of evidence claims are propagated as truths, I called them fabrications; if historical injustice has been committed, I find no acceptable reason to remain silent regardless of socio-political consequences. Conscience compels me to act and stand against all social injustices.

If modern day Greeks succeed in their diplomatic offensive to convince the world that Alexander the Great and his Macedonians were actually Greeks, then such a verdict may accomplish two things: (a) prove that historical evidence can be ignored (and in this case it would be), that records can be manipulated and subverted, and (b) inflict irreparable damage to the confidence and the faith entrusted in the hands of scholars and academic institutions world wide. Such a verdict will amount to nothing less than the theft of a king. On the other hand, if justice prevails, as it should, then we may safely conclude that Alexander and his legacy would continue to rest among his Macedonians whom he considered his natural kinsmen and with whom he shared his troubles, setbacks, sufferings and pain as well as jubilation in his victories.

6. Have you published any other books? Do you plan to publish more?

Yes, I have. In 2002 I published The Ancient Macedonians – Differences between the Ancient Macedonians and the Ancient Greeks, One Golden Ray upon the Rock, a novel in 2005 and The Wolves of Trapper’s Bluff in 2007.

I most certainly will continue to write.

The book is available through most of the book stores;

http://www.outskirtspress.com/thetheftofaking

J.S.G. Gandeto was born in Lubojno, Macedonia. Educated at Ss Cyril and Methodius University of Skopje, Republic of Macedonia. He immigrated to United States and continued his studies at Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan and Nova South-Eastern University in Fourth Lauderdale, Florida where he received his post graduate degrees. He recently completed his 29th year as an educator and has since retired and is continuing to pursue his passion in writing. In 2002 he published his first book Ancient Macedonians - Differences between Ancient Macedonians and the Ancient Greeks. In 2005 he published the romantic novels One Golden Ray upon the Rock and in 2007, The Wolves of Trappers Bluff.

In the Macedonian Language he has published the following novels: Spasa's Light in 2004, Saraf in 2009 and Rosamarina's Grave in 2010. Book of poems Muabeti in 2003, poemata Ko Jagne in 2005 and Majka -Egejka in 2009. Currently, he is preparing for publication his latest novel Folded Impressions.

Articles by Risto Stefov:

http://www.maknews.com/html/articles.html#stefov

http://www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3446

Free electronic books by Risto Stefov available at:

http://makedonskakafana.com/macedonian_ebooks.html

Our Name is Macedonia

https://www.mhrmi.org/our_name_is_macedonia

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Yet another, head case ..

YouTube - EKSLUZIVNO NA RADIO ILINDEN DONCO ANGELOSKI SO MIRKA VELINOVSKA

Once, you accept ANY change it never ends .. more and more until Macedonia is dead.

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Canadian Legation - Washington

August 18, 1941

No. 2471

Sir,

I have the honour to enclose herewith five copies of a memorandum received from His Majesty’s Consul General at Chicago , concerning the Macedonian Community in the United States . It is considered that this memorandum may be of interest to the Department.

I have the honour to be, with the highest respect, Sir, Your most obedient, humble servant, (can’t make our signature) For the Minister.

The Right Honourable, The Secretary of State for External Affairs, Ottawa , Canada .

MACEDONIANS

Community

The strength of the Macedonian Community in the U.S.A. and Canada is about 50,000, grouped for the most part in the industrial regions of Ohio , Illinois , Indiana , Michigan , and Pennsylvania . They are largely employed in factories at Toledo , O., Cincinnati , O., Akron , O., Cleveland , O., Dayton , O., Indianapolis , Ind. , Detroit , Mich. , Granite City , Ill. , Duquesne , Pa. , Ellwood City , Pa. , Steelton , Pa. , and Johnstown , Pa.

2. Organizations

(a) The Macedonian Political Organization (M.P.O.) correlates the activities of numerous regional groups or societies, the headquarters of which are at Indianapolis . They have been in existence for about twenty years.

(b) Macedonian American People’s League is an obscure group, thought to be communists in its political leanings. Its leader is said to be one S. Voydanoff.

(c) Unimportant Local Mutual aid societies complete the organization of the Macedonian Community.

3. Macedonian Political Organization

This is the most important group. Its network embraced branches in Canada . In Akron , O., and Toronto , Ontario., there are said to be strong elements and there are other active elements in Indianapolis , Ind. , and Detroit , Mich. The Toronto branch is reported to have split into two parts last year because a number of members, believed to be in the majority, opposed the Central Organization at Indianapolis .

The leading officers and supporters of the M.P.O. are the following:-

Chris (Cristo) Anastasoff, or Atanasoff, of Bulgarian origin. He is a Vice-President of the organization. Reports variously place him as a doctor at Detroit and a member of the staff of Washington University in St. Louis , Mo.

Kiril Chaleff, of Bulgarian origin. Vice-President of the organization. Believed to be a saloon-keeper in Indianapolis .

Peter Aceff, or Atzeff, Indianapolis ; of Bulgarian origin: Secretary of the M.P.O. Associate editor “Macedonian Tribune”.

Tashe Popcheff, Indianapolis ; of Bulgarian origin; Treasurer of M.P.O.

Pop Nikoloff, Detroit , a priest, active in the M.P.O.

Kosta Popoff, McKeesport , Pa. , of Bulgarian origin, a baker by trade; an active member of thr M.P.O.

Alexander Dimitroff, Detroit ; a student? Active member.

Luben Dimitroff, Indianapolis . Editor of the “Macedonian Tribune”. (See below).

Christo Nazamoff, Associate Editor of the “Macedonian Tribune”.

Vancha Miehailov. See special note below.

4. Political orientation of the M.P.O.

The fundamental purpose of the M.P.O. is the establishment of a free Macedonia . In such terms they express themselves through their organ, the “Macedonian Tribune”. For the satisfaction of such and end they are linked with the Macedonian Revolutionary Organization in Europe . A direct branch of the M.P.O. is said to exist in Pittsburg , Pa. , but financial help is said to have been given by the Revolutionary Organization to their political counterpart in America and in order that Macedonian independence at home may be achieved and the cultural lot of Macedonians abroad may be improved. While absolute independence is no doubt the ultimate goal, relative independence from Serbian and Greek control, even at the cost of German and Bulgarian “protection” has been welcomed, Macedonians in America are therefore pro-Nazi. Being chauvinists in temperament, an added reason for their Nazi inclinations is their dislike of the communists. The personal link between the M.P.O. may be Vancha Mikhailov. (See below).

5. Press

(1) Macedonian Tribune (Makedonska Tribuna), 20 S. West Street , Indianapolis , Ind. Weekly.

Editor – Luben Dimitroff.
Ass.Editor – Christo Mazamoff, Peter Aceff.
Subscription - $ 3.00 p.a., Organ of M.P.O.

(2) Naroden Glas, Granite City , Ill. While this is a Bulgarian Weekly, there is a Macedonian colony at Granite City and no doubt it caters too to this community. It may be noted that the Canadian Postal Regulations forbid the transmission of this paper in Canada .

6. Vancha Mikhailoff, or Mihaylof, or Ivan Michailoff

In 1940 Vanche Mihaylof, as one of the leaders of the M.P.O. was reporte to be in Albania and receiving the support of the Italians. He was also active in Bulgaria and Southern Serbia . It was Vancha Mikhailov who is alleged to have been implicated – from a distance – in the assassination of King Alexander of Yugoslavia .


Canadian Legation
To the Allied Governments in the United Kingdom

February 16th, 1945
Berkeley Street , London , W.1.
No. 89

Sir,

Following my telegram dealing with Yugoslavia from the 22nd January, the King Peter requested the resignation of Dr. Subasic’s Government, I have the honour to give a consolidation of the information contained therein and to supplement it where possible with information obtained in my conversations with the British Ambassador, Mr. Skrine Stevenson, with Mr. Addis of the Foreign Office, with Mr. Cankar and with Mr. Rybar. I should add that as I know Mr. Addis as a personal friend, his information cannot be considered as entirely official in nature.

2. The manner in which King Peter precipitated the “crisis” on 22nd January although sudden cannot be said to be entirely unexpected. To understand the reasons behind the King’s move a brief review of events subsequent to Dr. Subasic’s assumption of leadership of the Royal Yugoslav Government may be useful. After King Peter issued his declaration on 1st June, 1944 calling upon all Yugoslavs to ignore their differences and to form a united front under the leadership of Dr. Subasic, it became apparent that the National Liberation Committee with Tito at its head would have to be recognized as the actual force within the country. This de facto recognition became more evident with the Tito-Subasic agreement of 16th June and the agreement arrived at when Tito and Subasic met for a second time on 17th August.

3. With the capture of Belgrade on the 20th October it became a matter of vital urgency from the point of view of the United Kingdom Government that the Royal Yugoslav Government could be formed within the country as soon as practicable. As reported in my dispatch No. 61 of 1st February, Dr. Subasic at this time was given more or less carte blanche to work out the terms of an agreement with Tito, but it had been previously agreed that he would refer the draft agreement to both King Peter and the United Kingdom Government before ratifying it. Unfortunately, for reasons best known to himself, he signed the agreement on the 1st November, thereby presenting King Peter and the United Kingdom Government with a fait accompli.

4. Following his trip to Moscow , Subasic returned to Belgrade on 4th December. On 7th December in concert with Marshal Tito he sighed two annexes to the agreement of 1st November. He then returned to London on 9th December; the United Kingdom Government decided to approve the agreement, but no intimation was received from King Peter of his intentions.

5. This, then, was the background to the King’s statement on 11th January, which he issued without previous consultations with either his own Government or the United Kingdom Government. Although it would seem that the King had a certain amount of justification in feeling that he should have been consulted more fully by Dr. Subasic, his precipitate action was obviously ill-advised and lost him whatever popularity he had with public opinion in the United Kingdom and the United States , as well as damaging his position vis-à-vis Marshal Tito. As reported in my telegram No. 35 of 26th January, his principle adviser seems to have been his mother-in-law, Princes Aspasia. It is still not certain who his other advisers may have been.

6. On 22nd January the King issued a second statement in which he told of proposals he had made to Dr. Subasic and Marshal Tito. From the text of this statement it is clear that Marshal Tito said he would deal with King Peter only through the Yugoslav Prime Minister. The statement concluded by saying that he had lost confidence in Dr. Subasic and had consequently requested his resignation. During the following week, Subasic, backed by the United Kingdom Government, refused to accept the King’s request for his resignation and attempted in every way to make the King see reason.

7. On 28th January Tito made a statement to a Serbian women’s anti-fascist meeting in which he once more elucidates his views. The following day an official announcement was released to the press stating the King Peter and Dr. Subasic had reached agreement and that, following the terms of the Tito-Subasic agreement, a Regency Council would be formed and the Royal Yugoslav Government would proceed to Belgrade “as soon as possible” in order to form a coalition government with Marshal Tito’s National Liberation Committee.

8. It can be seen that throughout the whole painful process, starting with the first Tito-Subasic meeting in June 1944, it has been only through the patient efforts of the British Ambassador and the United Kingdom Government that eventual agreement was reached. In my last conversation with Mr. Stevenson he said that prior to June 1944 it had been a virtual certainty that civil war would break out in the country with all the grave results that such an unfortunate happening would have. Mr. Stevenson seemed of the opinion that the initial step towards agreement had been taken by Mr. Churchill and Marshal Stalin had med and agreed that their interests in Yugoslavia should be on a fifty-fifty basis. In this manner the Soviet Government had been able to place a restricting influence on Marshal Tito as, of course, had the United Kingdom Government through Brigadier Maclean. In a like manner, King Peter and Dr. Subasic had been made to realize the urgent necessity of establishing a unified Government in the country as soon as possible.

9. During the course of my conversation with Mr. Stevenson he made it quite clear that in his opinion the United States Government’s attitude towards the whole problem with Yugoslavia has been, to say the least, uncooperative. He understood that up until November 1944 the State Department had not wished to arouse United States public opinion prior to the Presidential elections and consequently had preferred to adopt a negative policy towards European affairs. He made it equally clear that following the Presidential campaign and the re-election of President Roosevelt, had the United States Government taken a firmer stand they could, his opinion, have brought about agreement in Yugoslav affairs far more rapidly. In my telegram No.49 of the 13th February I mentioned that Stevenson seemed to feel that the Crimea Conference had brought a change in the United States Government’s attitude towards their commitments in Europe and a realization that they must take full responsibility alongside the United Kingdom and the U.S.S.R. for carrying out of a concerted policy in the Balkans and Central Europe.

10. Mr. Stevenson seemed to be well pleased with the outcome of events but he foresees a difficult time ahead. He is under no illusions concerning the difficulties involved, and he believes that implementation of the terms of the Tito-Subasic agreement will be by far the hardest part of the problem.

11. In presenting the United Kingdom ’s policy towards Yugoslavia he also amplified his Government’s policy towards the Balkans and Eastern Europe generally. He said that it is not impossible that, following a successful settlement of the Macedonian problem, some form of loosely-knit federation of Balkan States could be formed. He intimated that some form of federation between Bulgaria and Yugoslavia would be welcomed by the United Kingdom Government, but only so long as it was related to some form of similar federation between all the Balkan States. From the manner in which he spoke I gathered that this is, in fact, the United Kingdom ’s long-term policy with respect to the Balkan countries. He also said that it would not be a bad thing if some form of economic unity could be achieved between the Central European States (and here he specifically mentioned Czechoslovakia, Austria and Hungary) and a Federation of Balkan States.

12. In this respect it is interesting to note that the TIMES Diplomatic Correspondent, in an article appearing in the February 15th issue, gave an account of an interview he had with Dr. Subasic in the 14th February. Speaking in his future capacity as Foreign Minister in the United Yugoslav Government, Dr. Subasic said that in his view three questions dominated Yugoslav foreign policy: -

“(i) The general question of more effective security and of Yugoslav economic development in the Adriatic ;

(ii) The rectification of the north-western frontiers unjustly traced after the 1914-18 war;

(iii) The realization by suitable stages of economic and political collaboration among the Balkan States for the insurance of peace and economic advancement in the Balkans.”

13. The article that quotes Dr. Subasic as saying “There are unmistakable signs that a final settlement of Yugoslav-Bulgarian relations is in sight. That alone will do much to make broad agreement among the Balkan peoples easier.” The article concluded by saying that Dr. Subasic is well aware of the necessity of maintaining “the friendliest relations with Great Britain and the United States” and that “he noted with pleasure the welcome support given by the British, American and Russian peoples to the agreement concluded with Marshal Tito.”

14. Dr. Cankar, with whom I spoke immediately prior to his departure for Belgrade , said that it was his own opinion that the question of the Regency should have been settled before Dr. Subasic left London . He confirmed the information contained in my telegram No. 46, that the majority of the Cabinet were unwilling to leave London without first having complete agreement on the choice of members for the Regency Council. Their hand had been forced by the Crimea Conference communiqué which, as Dr. Cakar said, that either Dr. Subasic should have remained behind in order to settle the Regency question or the whole Government should have waited until a settlement had been reached. Dr. Cankar was not quite clear as to how it was now proposed to reach agreement on the Regency Council because, with the exception of Rybar, there is now nobody left in London who can act as a link between the Government in Belgrade and King Petar.

15. A copy of this dispatch has been sent to Moscow .

I have the honour to be, Sir, Your obedient servant, John Starnes, Charge d’Affairs, a.i.

The Secretary of State for External Affairs, Ottawa

JS/LS


Canadian Embassy

Athens , March 12th, 1947

No. ???

Sir,

I have the honour to refer to my dispatch No. 126 of 5th March concerning the Slavic organization in Canada known as “ORIM” and quote below from a report dated 28th February from the High Commander of Gendarmerie in Ioannina, Epirus, to the Supreme Command of the Royal Greek Gendarmerie in Athens, a copy of which was forwarded to me by the British Police and Prisons Mission, Athens.

“According to a statement of a Macedonian convict in Kerkyra (Greek for Corfu ) prison, there exists in TORONTO , Canada , a Slavonic organization “ORIM”. Bulgarians and Yugoslavs are members of it. This is an old organization ever assisting the Macedonian party and working for the autonomizing of Macedonia , and now is supporting the ceding of Greek Macedonia to Yugoslavia .

“Greek natives of Macedonia are also members of “ORIM”, who keep in touch with Macedonian detainees in Kerkyra by sending letters and also funds and parcels through the British Consulate at Kerkyra. It is evident that the funds and parcels are not remitted to them by their own relatives in Canada but by their organizations, because all the dispatch which is received in Kerkyra is written by one of the organization in Canada , an elementary school teacher, PALLIS, N.

“Investigation of the Prison Director in Kerkyra who has made it his business to check it up corroborates the above.

“Please inform the competent authorities for action, including Greek Consulate in Canada .”

2. The above quoted report defers only enough from the information attached to my dispatch under reference to arouse our further interest and to note the additional details given above.

I have the honour to be, Sir, Your obedient servant, (can’t tell signature)

The Right Honourable, The Secretary of State for External Affairs, Ottawa , Canada .

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Let, me take a brief moment to explain the World Macedonian Diaspora (WMD). http://makedonskakafana.com/world_ma..._diaspora.html

Can anyone ask to join? NO, you're carefully selected (me) according to your current statements, actions and usefulness to our Macedonian diaspora. So, you may or may not be listed today but that's really up to you.

What, puts MTO over and above everyone?

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/announcement.php?f=2&a=3

Look, here if you think I'm joking around ..
http://www.macedonia2025.com/ (Latest news January 2010)

Mr, vino, care to explain the above mess? What, the hell is that about .. a new UMD style - OLD NEWS? YOU'RE FIRED ZASPAN!

Unlike, yourself I put NO organization ahead of family and personal friendships and if that includes harsh criticism so be it - tough love. Seriously, if you want to be useful why not head directly to the "history" section and educate the world at large? Maybe, you have a favorite ancient Macedonian pesna you care to share? If not, how about the Toronto sports scene? Fuck, anything other then your BLIND SUPPORT.

YouTube - ‪nikoj nema pravo da pregovara za moeto ime.mp4‬‏

[Risto the Great]

What, puts MTO over and above everyone?

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/announcement.php?f=2&a=3

Thank you MK.
I am against any Macedonian who seeks to violate any component of the Macedonian Cause.

Isn't it sad when you cannot be sure of Macedonian organisations and their objectives? When they cannot commit to a belief system or reason for their existence and when they can't adequately explain their actions to their members?

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Thank you MK.
I am against any Macedonian who seeks to violate any component of the Macedonian Cause.

Isn't it sad when you cannot be sure of Macedonian organisations and their objectives? When they cannot commit to a belief system or reason for their existence and when they can't adequately explain their actions to their members?

Silence, is never an option and those who continue to avoid us will pay the price. They're, badly outnumbered in diaspora and what's Macedonia 2025 thinking .. invest, in someone to update the site? UMD, should be updating it for the money they get paid and someone must suggest that to Ms. Vino or better yet he can do that.