my iGENEA test

[tchaiku]

God, not the Abruzzes! It can't be!

Are you OK?

[Amphipolis]

God, not the Abruzzes! It can't be!

[tchaiku]

Maniotes overlap with Abruzzes:


They are the closests modern Greeks to ancient Greeks.

[stefan559]

Vi blagodaram

[Risto the Great]

Hey it's not good that I'm asking that man about his origin in my first post, I know. But in one of his previous posts, he said he was from the Ohrid region. I am also from the Ohrid region and I am very interested in the results of the Macedonian DNA, especially the results of the Macedonians from the Ohrid region. That is all. All the best.

BTW, i'm born in Skopje, and my father is from Ohrid region, and my mother from Ovce Pole.

Much better. Welcome!

[stefan559]

Just search the village name in wikipedia, go to the Macedonian version of the article (left side) and there should be a section called "Родови" that has the names and origins. Although not all villages have this information, unfortunately.

@Carlin, that could be the case. But I suspect the village which is now abandoned was majority Macedonian speaking. But again who knows. A lot of these things which are usually passed through oral tradition have now been forgotten...

it was written by me on the Macedonian Wikipedia, about the origin for families in the Macedonian villages

[stefan559]

Hey it's not good that I'm asking that man about his origin in my first post, I know. But in one of his previous posts, he said he was from the Ohrid region. I am also from the Ohrid region and I am very interested in the results of the Macedonian DNA, especially the results of the Macedonians from the Ohrid region. That is all. All the best.

BTW, i'm born in Skopje, and my father is from Ohrid region, and my mother from Ovce Pole.

[Risto the Great]

from which village is your origin?

That is your first post in this forum? Here is a hint Stefan, give a little first. Then maybe ask.

[stefan559]

Just search the village name in wikipedia, go to the Macedonian version of the article (left side) and there should be a section called "Родови" that has the names and origins. Although not all villages have this information, unfortunately.

@Carlin, that could be the case. But I suspect the village which is now abandoned was majority Macedonian speaking. But again who knows. A lot of these things which are usually passed through oral tradition have now been forgotten...

from which village is your origin?

[tchaiku]

Greek Empurie= Classical Greeks
Balkans_IA = Thracians

[tchaiku]

Ethnically diverse ancient (imperial) Rome.

The haplogroup J1 in imperial Romans forms about 1/5 or overall samples taken which is mostly associated with the Middle East and Northern Africa.

Some subclades of J2, R1b, E, G might of Middle Eastern origin too.
Autosomally imperial Romans shift east towards Syrians compared to Iron age ones:

[maco2envy]

Hey brat, have you got the link to the wikipedia for family genealogies.

Just search the village name in wikipedia, go to the Macedonian version of the article (left side) and there should be a section called "Родови" that has the names and origins. Although not all villages have this information, unfortunately.

@Carlin, that could be the case. But I suspect the village which is now abandoned was majority Macedonian speaking. But again who knows. A lot of these things which are usually passed through oral tradition have now been forgotten...

[Carlin]

Somewhere in southern Albania is all I know unfortunately.

Very interesting. 18th century is a time period which coincides with the downfall and destruction of "Moscopole" when many Arman-Vlachs from southern Albania/northern Epirus escaped and settled in various parts of Macedonia. (Geographically, some considered Moscopole to be within the confines of Macedonia - see below.)

It's very likely that some Macedonians were caught up in this wave. It's also possible that your paternal family was of Arman origin, which adopted Macedonian during the 18th century, or later. It goes both ways. One of my great-grandmothers was a Vlach-speaker but she was actually Macedonian who married into an Arman household.

[VMRO]

23andMe seems like it has a lot more useful functionality than AncestryDNA, with the later being way too focused on people with british ancestry. Wouldn't mind doing 23andMe, but I don't think they accept data transfers and thus no discount. Geez, at least some sort of spatial distribution of matches would be appreciated.

By the way, I am not sure if it has been mentioned here, but the macedonian wikipedia has family genealogies for many villages (at least within the Ohrid-Bitola regions). I found out that my paternal lineage originates from what is now Albania with the clan-founder settling in Macedonia during the 18th century. Really highlights the amount of Macedonians that migrated out of Albania throughout the Ottoman period.

Hey brat, have you got the link to the wikipedia for family genealogies.

[maco2envy]

Somewhere in southern Albania is all I know unfortunately.